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Fire, police hardest hit by city cuts
52 city employees handed pink slips

By TONY WAGGONER
Today's News-Herald
Published Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:44 PM MST

On Tuesday, Lake Havasu City’s budget woes for the current and upcoming fiscal year came to a head, as the City Council approved a citywide reduction in workforce.


In all, 52 city employees received their pink slips with the council’s decision to approve City Manager Richard Kaffenberger’s reduction in workforce.

Twenty full-time employees were laid off in various departments, including three in the development services division, six public works vehicle maintenance and administration workers, two police officers, three firefighters and three finance department employees.

Even more positions have been lost to attrition, 21 overall, including three in each of the following: transit, development services, fire and police.

Kaffenberger had said he would ask employees eligible for retirement to consider doing so in order to save other jobs. Eleven city employees will now retire in the upcoming fiscal year. Six of those employees are firefighters, and two are police officers.

Eighteen part-time employees were let go, as well, with the public works department and airport losing the most. Eight public works employees in various departments, including vehicle maintenance and water were laid off. Four airport employees were cut.

The two departments hit hardest by the cuts were fire and police. A total of 15 fire department employees were let go. The layoffs will cut more than $2.2 million from the fire department budget.

By the end of the 2009-10 fiscal year, the police department will have seven fewer officers on the street or at the facility, which should cut approximately $2.2 million from the police department budget. Included among those laid off are two police lieutenants and two street officers.

The layoffs occurred at all levels within the departments, including department heads. One parks and recreation division manager, a parks and recreation administrative department director, building division manager and vehicle maintenance fleet supervisor were among those let go.

In addition to the parks and recreation division manager and administrative department director, the Aquatic Center also lost one of its supervisors.

While Tuesday’s layoffs cut $14.7 million from the budget, more are likely to come, Kaffenberger said. This includes a $9.7 million reduction in the general fund.

“As the departmental budget reviews continue through this week, I anticipate further budget reductions to be identified and included in the proposed budget that will be submitted to the City Council for fiscal year 2009-10,” Kaffenberger said.

He went on to say the budget reductions have been a moving target since they began, mainly because of updates from the state of Arizona that state-shared revenue estimates may even be less than what was initially thought.

Kaffenberger did point out the agreement reached between the city and Lake Havasu City Firefighters Association that would save three jobs within the city’s fire department. The agreement calls for a 10 percent reduction in pay all across the fire department and the loss of holiday pay.

While the council approved the cuts Tuesday, it did so with reservations. Safety was a major concern for Mayor Mark Nexsen, who said he knew how important programs and services like the after-school program were, but safety is a top priority for citizens. Nexsen proposed raising the fees for the after-school program from $3 to $6 a day. The city is currently spending more than $1 million a year on the program.

The council asked both Fire Department Chief Dennis Mueller and Police Department Chief Dan Doyle if they believed they could provide the same level of service and safety to the community despite the reduction in force. Both department heads said it would be something they would have to work around, but they felt confident the city would continue to be safe.

Mueller did acknowledge closing Fire Station No. 6 could lead to longer response times. Initial speculation surrounding the cuts was the station could face closure.

The city does plan to make sacrifices in ways other than the loss of personnel.

Personnel will see a 5 percent reduction in salary across the board. This includes City Attorney Paul Lenkowsky, who volunteered his hourly pay cut. Lenkowsky’s pay cut would be effective March 31. The city attorney’s office was not unscathed by the cuts. One administrative specialist was let go, and one city attorney position will remain unfilled.

Contracts for bottled water and coffee have been eliminated. City-provided cell phones have been reduced in number, as have take home vehicles.

Holiday and stand-by pay has been reduced. Together, the two cuts should save the city approximately $400,000 in general fund expenses.

Sick pay payout and stability pay have been eliminated for remaining employees at a savings of more than $500,000 together.

The city has also eliminated its contract with the lobbying firm Williams & Associates at a cost-savings of $70,000.

Step-increases of up to $1.5 million in the general fund have been eliminated.

Grant agencies have been asked by the city to reduce requests by 20 percent.

This Fourth of July, the city will not sponsor fireworks at Spectator Point on the Island until the economy improves. This should save the city $27,000 from the general fund.

Using the city’s “rainy day fund” is something Nexsen said is not the solution. He pointed to the state of Arizona using its emergency funds last year and now having to layoff even more employees because it is deeper in debt. Nexsen said he believes the city could experience the same problem a year from now if it were to dig into the fund.

The city could rehire many of the positions it has eliminated if the economy improves.

You may contact this reporter at twaggoner@havasunews.com.

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Comments (70 comment(s))

    Desertrat wrote on Apr 2, 2009 9:31 PM:

    " ps -the only newspaper article devoted to this subject in the archives actually contains the quote saying that the internet reports are highly misinformed and unfactual. Show one that has factual proof. Not someone who is upset because they got a ticket! "

    Desertrat wrote on Apr 2, 2009 9:30 PM:

    " I have what power? lol...thousands of postings by the same people is not PROOF. IF you have real proof and facts other than supposed anonymous internet blogs than take them to the proper authority. Yep, cal is right. That horse is dead. Go enjoy the sunshine! Those who continue to live here and visit here sure do. "

    cal/hav wrote on Apr 2, 2009 7:15 PM:

    " You've probably noticed I don't post as much lately. I have most of my post not approved because of facts. Rat and his other alias are about the only say the same thing over and over, although lately there had been some interesting stuff regarding the council inadequacy. Well the weather is nice outside as I have been told. Rocky Point this weekend, Baja Cruise on Easter.
    Hope the majority of the community (visitors included) enjoy LHC and have a good time. as for me the whiner. life is too short. I'll be in Mexico The horse is dead. No it's not I'll be riding it on the beach. Gotta Go enjoy the sunshine. " "

    MN wrote on Apr 2, 2009 6:37 PM:

    " beachbum, Perhaps tourism is down because of people like you AND havasulovercindy. Keep trashing people and that is what you get. NOTHING! "

    ipsalotto wrote on Apr 2, 2009 5:18 PM:

    " Yes Ivehadit, I am sure that desertrat does have that power.

    Drat, it impolite to answer a question with a question. I would submit that the answer to your question to Beach Bum is the fact that hundreds if not thousands of posts exist saying it's so and radio shows have been dedicated to the subject as have newspaper articles.

    Perception is reality. And the WORLD perception of Havasu is a place with bad cops and no justice. Just the way it is. "

    Desertrat wrote on Apr 2, 2009 2:42 PM:

    " Ivehadit- yeah, I guess if the same few people stop bashing our city, what would they have to post about? Kinda sad really. Oh well, the majority of the community (visitors included) enjoy LHC and have a good time. For the few whiners- life is too short. The horse is dead. Go enjoy the sunshine. "

    Ivehadit wrote on Apr 2, 2009 2:05 PM:

    " Beach Bum, just because your blonde hair is thinning and der bellie protrudes the furthest from your body, do you want to blame that on the PD, FD and City Admin also? May as well. It has about as much relevance as everything else you have been harping about. Have a Great Day "

    Ivehadit wrote on Apr 2, 2009 12:16 PM:

    " Desert Rat: In review of the various postings on this site, I note that often rebuttals are not posted due to review and denial by the moderators. Its clearly an intent on their part to keep the bantering going between parties, thus creating interest of readers. The moderator has the capability to see who is reading, posting and such on the site and like most newspapers, look for sensationalism to draw the numbers. If the issues of police and fire were settled to every one's satisfaction by logical and clear answers, there would be no further need for this site. Just look how long this particular one has been running. Now watch this will not get posted either.... "

    Desertrat wrote on Apr 1, 2009 9:23 PM:

    " bum- please post the PROOF of the 'corruption conspiracy" "police brutlity". Every court room in every city has defendants screaming "I was framed, I am innocent, it was the cop's fault, my mother's fault, the other guy's fault" Why should LHC be any different? The stats show that the MAJORITY of the visitors and community members DO NOT end up in court. Look at the numbers. Out of the thousands, only a small percent end up in court. Guess they were all framed. Everyone is innocent. Yeah, okay. "

    beach bum wrote on Apr 1, 2009 5:38 PM:

    " And what happens when the police ARE the ones hurting people? What happens when the police ARE the ones breaking the law? What happens then? Then is NOW.

    Deny the facts as you might, the facts don't change. Tourism is down, has been down since 2005 or before and the economy downturned in 2008.

    Please let us see all those website that say they will not come here because tourists were violent, tourists wrote unwarranted tickets, tourists were arresting people to fill the courts. Please point out those websites. "

    havaidea wrote on Apr 1, 2009 4:53 PM:

    " dubld
    Personally I think its a good idea for the FD to get out, shop for food, and get to know the people and places in the area they are assigned to. If I recall Smiths did need the FD at one point for a fire. Hey, firemen have to eat too! As for the injuries, I know a couple firemen and they have said that they get tested yearly on their physical fitness. They also workout a lot off duty, compete in marathons, and I always see them running around my neighborhood. Could their active lifestyles cause injury to them? I am sure it could. Should they be punished for staying in shape for their job (since it is a requirement)? Absolutly not. "

    MN wrote on Apr 1, 2009 3:49 PM:

    " narcissus,1. a youth caused to pine away for love of his own reflection.2.a daffodil, one whose flowers have a short corona. You choose! I was not serious about cal/hav running for office. Just what we need, another liberal! "

    Desertrat wrote on Apr 1, 2009 1:58 PM:

    " Tim- as long as you holding 'feet to the fire' you might want to look how the public treat other people. There are MANY violent crimes in our community where people hurt each other. Keep criticizing those who are protecting the community and enforcing the laws and see what happens when no one wants that thankless job. "

    Tim T wrote on Apr 1, 2009 1:41 PM:

    " In the court of public opinion the public servents get exactly what they deserve. If they are the point of critism them they deserve it. The same is true about the city manager, mayor, sewer issues, or even President. I dont want to live in a country where you cannot be critical of public servents.
    The "love it or leave it" attitude is a horrible attitude to have. If you do not like reading comments that hold public servents feet to the fire then dont read the paper. "

    dubld wrote on Apr 1, 2009 12:35 PM:

    " QT...I agree with sticking together also, even if that means auditing all departments for the sake of the citys coffers. Pro-active? Definitely. Donating time & money to make this city a better place is something that should be done by more citizens. My comment on the FD, unfortunately is true. It's not a personal attack on FD but more of a fact. The city was paying it's majority of work-comp to FD personnel for injuries sustained while not fighting fires. Sure, they were on the clock & got rightfull compensation but it's still a fact. Secondly, there have been numerous times I've been in the grocery store while FD personnel & a fire truck sit outside...while others shop for groceries(I didn't say for who or with what $$$). I don't really care personally but these are definitive facts & surely must have ruffled some feathers. I support the FD(my father is a captain in CA) & PD but I have no inclination to look the other way when cutbacks need to be made. "

    QT wrote on Apr 1, 2009 11:58 AM:

    " I mean stick together, dubld. That means that for every person who sits on their collective butts and complains about what the city is or is not doing, maybe it is time that "we the people" become more proactive instead of sitting back and watching it from the safety of our porches.
    You made the comment about the city paying for "off-duty" injuries and grocery runs of the FD. Unless you know something like that is true, then don't say it. FD personnel have medical insurance that they pay for, and unless it is an "on the job" related injury the city does not pay for it. They guys do their grocery shopping before their shifts, not during. This I know, since I was at one time a part of the FD family. And if they did not get their own food their families brought it for them. I know this also, because I did it many times while my husband worked for the FD. And since I am still friends with quite a few of the personnel, I know this to still be true. My brain is all here, and I have opinions like every body else. Would be nice for a change if not all of the comments on here were in the form of complaints, nagging, and put-downs of the PD and FD. They deserve our support, not backlashings. "

    Tim T wrote on Apr 1, 2009 11:44 AM:

    " I cannot see anyone who supports anarchy here. I see people who suggest with some proof that the police are part of the problem.
    I would love to see something that proves that the over-policing has encouraged people to come back. Please point to the websites, radio shows and newspaper articles that tout how much people like the Havasu PD. I can find many of the same that point the other way. "

    Desertrat wrote on Apr 1, 2009 11:34 AM:

    " bum- it has nothing to do with 'different opinions.' There is no 'complaining about the issues' on here. It is the same ones beating the same dead horse under every article. It is about their own personal agenda against the PD, FD, city council, mayor, judge, whomever. The horse is dead and was buried along time ago. Move on and enjoy our community. Or not, the choice is yours. "

    ttracy wrote on Apr 1, 2009 10:36 AM:

    " Ha Ha MN, I said that same thing about Cal/Hav in another article.
    Cal/Hav for Mayor!!!!
    So when are you becoming a permanent resident? "

    dubld wrote on Apr 1, 2009 9:33 AM:

    " QT...stick it where the sun don't shine? What happened to sticking together? The city obviously feels that losing those PD positions was fiscally responsible, while keeping safety in mind, a viable choice. I'm assuming that the loss of these positions will not keep the city from maintaining order. The mere fact that some of these positions were cut proves that the city is, or was 'over-policed' and no, I don't mean 'over-policed' as in a chaos-driven fanatical way. Get a brain, or meet me for coffee sometime... "

    cal/hav wrote on Apr 1, 2009 9:23 AM:

    " We are better off on sewer as we now can get rid of most of the debri that you are spewing
    Guess you won't mind paying the Higher water bills since the drained the fund for the sewer than replace the pipes for srinking water "

    QT wrote on Apr 1, 2009 7:00 AM:

    " By the way everyone! Keep in mind that the cuts in personnel are in ALL departments, not just Fire and POlice. And personally dubld, I do not think that Lake Havasu city is "over policed" we need these guys in order to maintain order. So take your "anarchy" frame of mind and put it where the sun don't shine! "

    QT wrote on Apr 1, 2009 6:47 AM:

    " Come on people! Why is it that every time something like this happens, all any one can do is complain? As a city and as people of this city, weshould all be sticking together and trying to help the "powers that be" figure out ways to "save" money. Not knocking each other around and making negative comments. I agree that the personnel of the PD and the FD should be the last ones looked at for RIFS and such, but "WE" have no control over what is done at this point. This is all done and over with for now. It is time to move on. And MN, what is this calling cal/hav a narcisus? Which by the way means a "plant that grows froma bulb with either a white or yellow flower.
    And for those of you that keep spouting about Rural Metro as a replacement for our guys, been there, done that. Try actually reading reports on Rural Metro and you may find out some interesting information about the way they operate. That is why they were not voted in when it was brought up the last two times. And privatizing the Fire department will "NOT" save the people of this city any money as everyone will get a bill for the service that is provided, regardless of what that service is. Even if it is an "OOPS" mistake that the police and fire departments were called in. We are better off as we are, even if our staff is cut back to what we had in 2005. When/if the economy ever improves, we will get our police and fire back to where they are now. So everybody stop arguing about what we cannot help and start trying to work together to make the changes we need to make in order to keep Lake Havasu City alive. "

    beach bum wrote on Mar 31, 2009 10:53 PM:

    " funny Ivehadit, I was going the say the same about the people who constantly bash others for having an opinion that differs from theirs. It is getting old. If you dont like it, stop reading it. Move on, if you life is so great and without trouble then go enjoy it and allow us to complain about the issues. "

    Ivehadit wrote on Mar 31, 2009 6:10 PM:

    " Cal/hav- Whine, Whine and Whine. I too had to pay 3K to have septic put in and then moved into our new house where only three months later, to have them smash it and charge me another 2K to do that. We are better off on sewer as we now can get rid of most of the debri that you are spewing and put it where it really belongs. Keep flushing and hold on to the Kool Aid. P.S. Man, get a life your bull is getting old, real OLD. "

    dubld wrote on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM:

    " Anarchy rules!!!
    Is this statement an oxy-moron?
    Anarchy...then rules? Wait, I know, all of you that constantly argue with each-other on this website are morons!
    PD & FD should be the last positions to go? wtf? Does that mean I would get permits, info, bills, parking stickers, engineering, lawful representation, etc...from PD & or FD. Yeah right. These positions had to go for financial reasons. Maybe if LHC wasn't over-policed they wouldn't have lost these positions. Maybe if the FD wasn't costing the city so much for off-duty injuries & grocery trips they wouldn't have lost theirs. "

    C8t wrote on Mar 31, 2009 11:04 AM:

    " Police and fire department personnel are the very LAST PEOPLE who should be pink slipped. "

    MN wrote on Mar 31, 2009 4:58 AM:

    " cal/hav, maybe you should be the next mayor! You seem to be the only one to have all of the answers. Now does that make you smart or just a narcisus? "

    Desertrat wrote on Mar 30, 2009 9:52 PM:

    " cal-well maybe you can start telling California how to run thier state. By news reports, looks like it will need it! If not, life is too short. Go enjoy the nice weather our western states are lucky enough to have! Afterall, it's a dry heat! lol "

    cal/hav wrote on Mar 30, 2009 5:29 PM:

    " why do you bother coming on here and spreading your wisdom?
    Cause it appear you and those who run the City have None.
    Time for the City to consider contracting Law Enforcement to the Sheriff. It may happen anyway when the City goes Bankrupt. "

    Sissy wrote on Mar 30, 2009 4:39 PM:

    " P.S I AM A LAWABIDING CITIZEN AND I HAVE NO FEAR OF THE POLICE HERE! "

    Sissy wrote on Mar 30, 2009 4:37 PM:

    " Can anyone tell me the name of a city that doesn't have police? Can anyone tell me the name of a city where no one gets a ticket? Can anyone tell me the name of a city that doesn't have crime? If you can, maybe that is where you would be happier. I love LH and I would love for there to be no crime here. Every year the crime gets worse! The first year we lived here, we were told that the police don't put up with much here! That was good news to us. We were told that if they saw a transient, they were escourted out of town. That was good news to us. We were told that there were no murders here, that was good news to us. Now you want the police to look the other way, so you can do whatever you want. I don't want to live in a town like that! "

    Desertrat wrote on Mar 30, 2009 3:59 PM:

    " And once again, 'former visitors' visiting a website in a vacation place that they have no intention of coming to? Sorry. Doesn't make sense. Sounds like the same 'ole same 'ole. How many people go back and bash a community on a newspaper forum in a city that they are not going to visit? hmmm "

    Desertrat wrote on Mar 30, 2009 3:56 PM:

    " From what we see, law abiding people enjoy the lake and the city already. The same people who complain about too many PD, too many FD, etc will be the same ones who complain when no one shows up fo them when they need them. Some people would rather visit other towns (Las Vegas, San Diego). Those who like LHC will be back, those that don't, won't. We can't change the entire community to please a few. Happy traveling. "

    Former visitors wrote on Mar 30, 2009 3:35 PM:

    " Keep up the delusion!
    For those grounded in reality, it is good to see some in authority might be ready to admit the problem exists.
    I look forward to returning with my family when law abiting citizens can enjoy the lake without fear of your police revenue and court treasury enhancement. "

    Desertrat wrote on Mar 30, 2009 2:20 PM:

    " cal - Nope. Wrong again. It is the same few people else if there were actual facts, most people would be addressing it instead of posting it over and over and over again on an anonymous forum. And nope, the lack of tickets have nothing to do with who you know, but how you behave. If you hate LHC so much, why do you bother coming on here and spreading your wisdom? Seems like California should appreaciate your help. Have a nice day! "

    cal/hav wrote on Mar 30, 2009 9:59 AM:

    " I had a septic system that came with the house when it was built. I was FORCED to spend thousands to get rid of it and hook up to sewer. So it really doesn't matter what it came with.

    Most people I talk to very rarely get tickets. Probably cause they all carry badges and aren't from out of town. Your still delusional about the one or two people. Amazing how one or two people can have such an impact on the economy of Havasu. Oh yeah the national economy is to blame for it ALL. "

    northbound wrote on Mar 30, 2009 4:05 AM:

    " for the last 18 years i've been in my house, i have used the two outside lights in my front yard attatched to the house when built, and the two out back. they are not going to tell me it's too much light. it's what came wiht the house when it was built. Again if everyone would leave on their outside lights we can all watch out for each other. "

    Desertrat wrote on Mar 29, 2009 9:25 PM:

    " Most people I talk to very rarely get tickets, but a few posters on here get them for everything! Wonder why that is? "

    MN wrote on Mar 29, 2009 12:15 PM:

    " Sensor lights work great also! If anyone comes too close to your house, the lights will go on. Easily installed. "

    beach bum wrote on Mar 29, 2009 11:53 AM:

    " Light pollution has been an issue before the county supervisors. So one or two lights could become an issue as much as the noise ordinance where normal level of conversation can get you a ticket here. "

    northbound wrote on Mar 29, 2009 12:12 AM:

    " cal/hav wrote on Mar 28, 2009 3:22 PM:

    " Northbound. Be careful , there is a lighting ordinance in case you didn't know. So be careful how well lit you keep things

    Negative all it takes is one or two outside light s which come on most homes any way. Leave on your outside lights so we can all help each other out by keeping our eyes open. "

    curious1 wrote on Mar 28, 2009 5:24 PM:

    " LHCMOM - Mohave County authorized $160,000 for vehicles, NOT Lake Havasu City. Same with schools. The school district is operated by the County, NOT the City. "

    cal/hav wrote on Mar 28, 2009 3:22 PM:

    " Northbound. Be careful , there is a lighting ordinance in case you didn't know. So be careful how well lit you keep things. "

    beach bum wrote on Mar 28, 2009 3:18 PM:

    " CAL/HAV, I have been reading about tourism down since 2005. The warnings have been going out for years and now those whose head are buried in the sand see the price that ignorance, willful, causes. "

    MN wrote on Mar 28, 2009 12:18 PM:

    " You won't get a refund on your property tax because people aren't paying their mortgages or property taxes! The first time home buyer is getting an $8000.00 reduction on a house and a lower interest rate. Wouldn't we have benifitted more by offering a lower interest rate to everyone? We were looking to buy another house, but not now. We don't have anything to loose, unless Obama takes away our retirement and social security. Wouldn't surprise me if he tried! Look at what he wanted to do to our Vets! OUR VETS! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? The ones who fought for our country and help give us our freedom. Now all of that could go down the drain and for what? He is truly only in love with himself! "

    cal/hav wrote on Mar 28, 2009 9:06 AM:

    " Like top managers of Wall Street Firms, Mr K mismanages the city into a financial mess. Even the President made a point to state that stimulus funds should not be used for DOG PARKS, yet 1/4 of million was spent for one last year.
    Now that all these services have been cut will I be getting a refund on my property taxes since I am not getting what I am paying for? Probably not.
    An according to todays paper looks like tourism is down.mmmmmmm haven't some of us been saying that for 2 years now? "

    LHCMOM wrote on Mar 28, 2009 8:09 AM:

    " If we don't have money to keep our FD and PD well staffed then how can we have money to buy $160,000 in new vehicles? I think the council needs to see what is NECESSARY for our city to function properly and safely and what we can do without over the next year or so. "

    northbound wrote on Mar 28, 2009 5:26 AM:

    " The 2 lieutenants that were layed off have been there for several years and should of retired a while back. Yes the story says by 2009-2010 year there will be 7 less officers on the street but there will always be more on then off the streets. We have to come together as a community and keep our eyes open to crime in order to help the officers as much as we can. Keep your homes well lighted at night. Those of you who don't leave outside lights on at night only make it harder for not only the officer passing by your house but your neighbors across the street or next door to see what may be going on in YOUR yard. Remember criminals like the darkness it's harder to spot them so light up the outside of your homes/property. Neighbors have to watch out for each other. "

    northbound wrote on Mar 28, 2009 5:16 AM:

    " People RELAX the 2 police officers they are that were layed off were in the police academy. One had to take the lay off he couldn't make it thru due to medical problems (lupus)I hope he is doing better from what I understand his lupus is taking a toll on him. None of the officers on the street have been layed off. Now thats not to say a few won't be however there are more then 4 officers on per shift including a Sgt and Lt sure some beats won't have 2 officers in them but it doesn't take long for one officer from other beats to roll into one for back up, nor does it take the Sgt or Lt long to get from one beat to the next. Relax it's not like there will only be 2 police officers on for the whole city that is not going to happen. The Sgt or Lt may have to suck it up and take a beat maybe do some work for a change. The city is not going to take on a libility so great as to cut back farther then your thinking in public safety. "

    Sissy wrote on Mar 27, 2009 8:10 PM:

    " Imagine that, people don't want the police/services cut because of the summer crowds coming. I thought they were so well behaved. "

    Desertrat wrote on Mar 27, 2009 5:15 PM:

    " bum- lol - believe me- If I was the editor, half the trash that gets posted on here would not. 'Nuff said. "

    bfran80 wrote on Mar 27, 2009 2:27 PM:

    " I understand that decommissioning entire units from their jobs is not an easy thing but I do not think that the City Manager or the City Council deserve kudos if these cuts along with future cuts to the Fire Dept and Police Dept. are to be made. Times are tough for everyone but eliminating our safety net puts a lot off restrictions on response in emergency situations. Particularly with the upcoming summer crowd coming in. Although this crowd brings our city revenue, it also increases the necessity and demand of safety calls. The City Manager and council members need to reconsider severe actions that are hopefully not guided with biased opinions. "

    beach bum wrote on Mar 27, 2009 12:17 PM:

    " well editor/Drat at least Have Had It has contributed a valid point and is attempting to correct a problem instead of having his head buried in the sand. "

    pjtaylor wrote on Mar 27, 2009 8:34 AM:

    " I am still curious if the city council will continue to fund community programs and social services when they are cutting police and fire. Does anyone have the answer to that question? How can they justify giving Social Services Interagency Council $175,000 when they can’t pay their public safety officers. "

    lhcwatchdog wrote on Mar 26, 2009 11:37 PM:

    " It is amazing what is stated as "fact" on this blog. I have looked at all of the calls that the FD runs. They ran close to 500 more "legitimate" calls in 2008 than they did in 2007. There have been more every year. The FD assigns only one number to a call, regardless of how many engines are on the call. The PD assigns a number for every officer that responds to a call. I can see the argument there that they artificially inflate numbers by sending more officers to each call, but who are you to decide how many officers are needed on a call? Have you been driving around harrassing the police while they investigate car accidents?

    "The FD and PD have a lot less to do today than they did in 2005..." that is nothing but speculation on your part. Just another blowhard with an opinion. "

    raisedinLHC wrote on Mar 26, 2009 9:12 PM:

    " All of the sudden when it becomes self evident that the Economy has gone down the toilet EVERYONE is an economist. Likewise, everyone is an expert in what it takes to protect a community in regard to Police, Fire and EMS staffing and deployment.

    Statements like I think, I feel or I believe are all opinions. Let's stick to the facts. Building boats and houses has nothing to do with the fact that calls for help are up. When the economy tanks and people loose jobs, homes and HOPE, people become hopeless. The result? Increase in suicide, murder, arson and domestic violence. Read your headlines folks. Wait, I forgot not all the calls that PD and FD respond to make it into the paper. We wouldn't want to tarnish the image of paradise. "

    Al Terigo wrote on Mar 26, 2009 8:35 PM:

    " Mayor Nexsen, I think it's been raining for over a year now. Doubling the after school program cost could be dangerous for younger students in the form of more latch key kids that are unable to afford safe after school care. The pressure for parents to work makes an affordable after school program even more important in this economic climate. "

    Desertrat wrote on Mar 26, 2009 8:09 PM:

    " Had it- Your name kinda says it all. I am surprised you are still here! You have nothing positive to say about our community and have a negative comment under every article (and you seem to know about every single city department, infrastructure and then some). Surely your talent is wasted in our pathetic town. It is a big, big world out there. You might enjoy life somewhere else. Just a suggestion - have a nice day!. "

    havaidea wrote on Mar 26, 2009 8:03 PM:

    " Its funny how you can see by the comments who is in bed with the city manager isn't it Hadit? "

    Had it with Havasu wrote on Mar 26, 2009 5:25 PM:

    " Save it for someone who doesn't know better.

    The Police an Fire Department's have less to do today than they did in 2005.

    In 2005 we had commercial service at the airport.

    In 2005 we were building 100's of homes & had multiple commercial projects.

    In 2005 we were building boats in Havasu.

    Our population has dropped more than 10% since 2005. Manufacturing is at a standstill.

    In 2005 we had much more tourism.

    How far off is the occupancy rate at hotel/motels?

    How far off are retail sales over 2005?

    How many snowbirds never came or came late and left early?

    Save it. Audit the 911 calls and responses and you'll find both departments have fewer legitimate calls yet assign more personnel and equipment to each call. Old trick to inflate numbers.

    The FD & PD have a lot less to do today than they did in 2005 and they are both staffed at higher levels than 2005 despite the layoffs.

    If we get the layoffs over with the blow to morale will pass sooner. If we drag it out the morale of these public servants isn't going to improve until it's over. "

    Ralph wrote on Mar 26, 2009 4:46 PM:

    " The FD wasn't singled out but agreed to the extra pay reductions in order to retain personnel. It's commendable. Does it equal 10%? As I recall it was an extra 1% + holiday pay on top of the city wide 5% reduction. "

    PublicSafetySupporter wrote on Mar 26, 2009 4:15 PM:

    " Ridiculous & Hadit

    While there is less construction and less undocumented workers here in Lake Havasu City there is an increased demand in service levels for both the Police and Fire Departments. With the downturn in the economy their has been an increase in responses to Domestic Violence (both police and fire) and other violent acts. Both departments have seen an annual increase of approximatly 10% increase of responses and are on track this year for that trend to continue.

    Unlike other city departments the police and fire department cannot just shift there workload from one day to the next, when there is an emergency, all tasks must be completed in a timely manner or people will be hurt or killed. Every extra second of a response by either agency places the person expieriencing the emergency further in jepordy.

    Every inute counts in public safety, and for the city council to cut first responders like they have, puts this community, its citizens and the brave men and women who serve it in jepordy. "

    bigchino wrote on Mar 26, 2009 3:12 PM:

    " In this staement How can the Fire chief and police Cheif say they are even going to provide the same level of service to its community. They both should just stop being afraid of losing their jobs and tell the truth. If you reduce your force and close down stations you reduce your service levels period!
    While the council approved the cuts Tuesday, it did so with reservations. Safety was a major concern for Mayor Mark Nexsen, who said he knew how important programs and services like the after-school program were, but safety is a top priority for citizens. Nexsen proposed raising the fees for the after-school program from $3 to $6 a day. The city is currently spending more than $1 million a year on the program.
    As quoated in the article:
    "The council asked both Fire Department Chief Dennis Mueller and Police Department Chief Dan Doyle if they believed they could provide the same level of service and safety to the community despite the reduction in force. Both department heads said it would be something they would have to work around, but they felt confident the city would continue to be safe.

    Mueller did acknowledge closing Fire Station No. 6 could lead to longer response times. Initial speculation surrounding the cuts was the station could face closure."
    Did the rest of the city emplyees take a 10% cut in their slaries? Did the rest of the City Employees lose their holiday pay? Why does Public Safety have the most burden carried? Did the City Manager's office take a pay reduction? That is how it appears from this article and if this the case the elected officials should be ashamed for sending the message that they do not care about the safety of the citizens in Lake Havasu. "

    ridiculous wrote on Mar 26, 2009 1:44 PM:

    " Is public safety being effected? After all, thousands of people have left Lake Havasu City, whereas, police and fire projections were based on average growth of the past few years. The city has less people, not more, therefore, isn't it fair to trim police/fire budgets accordingly to realign per capita spending? "

    Had it with Havasu wrote on Mar 26, 2009 12:20 PM:

    " FD and PD personnel are still at a higher level per capita than in FY2005/2006.

    Couple that with less construction activity which equals fewer undocumented workers and less for planning, inspection, etc. to do and we're in better shape by a long shot. Add in the decreased tourism and it is irresponsible to claim that we're running thin on public safety.

    The headline is quite deceptive. Public Safety lost more personnel than other departments although, in terms of percentage, the cuts to public safety were among the lowest. "

    Havaidea wrote on Mar 26, 2009 10:17 AM:

    " I agree about the budget cuts, they are happening all across the nation. What I DON'T agree with is public safety taking a big hit in the FIRST round. I am sure that cuts will be ineveitable but they should explore every option first. "

    SweetMelissa21 wrote on Mar 26, 2009 9:42 AM:

    " I understand it is helping, it is just sad to see certain people go! We are going to miss you! "

    ridiculous wrote on Mar 26, 2009 9:14 AM:

    " Kudos to the City Manager and Council; budget cuts and layoffs are NEVER easy, it is certainly sad to see people lose their jobs, but it is a reflection of the current economic state we ALL find ourselves.

    I hope everyone displaced by this bad economy finds newer and better opportunities. As the economy shifts, they'll be out there, we all just have to find them... "

    dubld wrote on Mar 26, 2009 8:11 AM:

    " I applaud the effort of cost-saving & the analytical review of procedures being done by the city. This, in my mind, is the best way to 'spend less, do more'. When money is tight & bills need to get paid, this is what responsible people do. All to often, governmental agencies go unchecked & openly spend tax-payer money with little to no regard of future debt. Thinking about it, this is exactly opposite of what the Obama administration is doing...bigger government, more debt, all for the better future in the long run. Should havasu have gone this way? Think about it. "

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