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Barnes uses ‘poor choice of words’ during council meeting

By NATHAN BRUTTELL
Today's News-Herald
Published Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:36 PM MST

Councilman Lee Barnes, referring to himself as “just a little Jewish” when it comes to finances, received boos and hisses while discussing City Manager Richard Kaffenberger’s contract at the City Council special meeting Tuesday night.


Mayor Mark Nexsen also referred to Barnes’ statement as “inappropriate.”

“I will certainly talk to Mr. Barnes about his poor choice of words at the very least, and I think he will agree that he owes the community an apology,” Nexsen said.

Barnes was explaining his hesitancy in firing Kaffenberger and that he did not want the council to have to use funds to hire an interim city manager.

“Excuse my action but I’m just a little Jewish to be able to do this,” Barnes told the council, causing an uproar among the standing-room only crowd.

Barnes later said he understood that his words associating a religion with finances could be seen as derogatory and stereotypical.

“What I meant there is Jewish people are pretty good with their money,” he said. “I think a lot of Jewish families teach generation after generation very well on how to handle their money.”

Barnes then acknowledged that his apology could also seem insensitive.

“It wasn’t meant to be inappropriate, and I meant that we should handle our money very carefully,” he said. “I hope this doesn’t turn into a big deal, and I apologize to those people who found it offensive.”

Council members in attendance declined to make a statement and deferred to Nexsen.

“I don’t think he meant anything to be offensive,” Nexsen said. “He said some very inappropriate things, and I will talk to him at least.”

You can contact the reporter at nbruttell@havasunews.com.

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Comments (79 comment(s))

    O'really wrote on Oct 28, 2009 10:16 PM:

    " So Rat, do you mean like the FACT that tickets went up 300% in one year here? I think YOU need to come up with some facts, like PROVE what YOU say about "one or two people who only complain on the web" YOU are the one who has NO facts to back YOU up. All I need to do is point to the towns reputation, the hundreds of posts across the net, the radio shows, the diving numbers of tourists and the soaring number of tickets. What have you got? NOTHING> "

    Desertmouse wrote on Oct 28, 2009 6:34 PM:

    " Same people? What is your proof? I have been reading for years the same issues by many people and there are hundreds on the internet that complain. College kids, radio shows, other newspapers, business owners, and many many others are complaining. Keep kidding yourself that its only a few. BTW, the people are safe because Andress is on vacation-REAL lawyers are filling in as Judge! The speed at which justice is rendered is amazing. It is funny to watch the cops stammer when questioned by someone who knows the law! "

    Sissy wrote on Oct 28, 2009 5:34 PM:

    " Several of you wrote "if he let it slip it must be what he is really thinking". Well,then, how about Obama? He was being interviewed and when asked how he like being an only male in the household with all females, he said "they need to be slapped up on side of the head sometimes!!" and "all women do is shop anyways". HE SAID IT, DOES THAT MAKE HIM THINK IT? GUESS SO..HE NEEDS TO GO! "

    cal/hav wrote on Oct 28, 2009 4:50 PM:

    " Hey Rat- Hannity, Oreily and Beck make a living out of it. Look at there following "

    Desertrat wrote on Oct 28, 2009 2:16 PM:

    " Since supposedly our city council/mayor read and post on this forum - let's hear from them. Do you think it is good for our community to have the same people on here month after month complaining about the lack of leadership in our town? Do you really think an anonymous, no accountability forum (without facts or proof) spewing negativity is good for our city? Is this the only way to generate change? Or is it an embarrassment and a sad illustration of how unhappy some residents are no matter what is happening here? "

    O'really wrote on Oct 28, 2009 10:55 AM:

    " as my guests were also members of this community and given the recent events of the council, city politics came up. It is odd how I am attacked by Rat for doing what he suggests, get off this site and talk to people. It really shows me that he just wants to protect the status quo. One my dinner guests IS considering a run for council. I am far to busy to do so but will throw considerable resources to anyone who commits to returning this city to prosperity by getting rid of the most destructive issue's that have driven away our visitors. I put my money where my mouth is. "

    Desertrat wrote on Oct 28, 2009 7:05 AM:

    " Oreally-speaking of city council members (since that is what the article is about)and you and your associates (nice dinner conversation by the way lol) think our City Council and Mayor do such a bad job, we will be looking forward to you running for City Council. Since you know what is best for our fine community, you can show them what real leadership is all about. I look forward to the results. Until then, I will continue to read the complaints (under different names of course) year and year and see how that works for ya. In all the years I have dined in this town, I have never heard that topic discussed. How funny! "

    MN wrote on Oct 28, 2009 12:32 AM:

    " oreally~that is the topic of you dinner conversation??? How sad. Hope your kids weren't along to hear you ragging on our community servents. Talking loud enough for the next people to hear you? As bad as blowing your nose in public! You must be OLD! "

    O'really wrote on Oct 27, 2009 9:53 PM:

    " All HaiL desrtrat, all knowing decider of what most people do or dont do here in Havasu....lol. Honestly I think many more people read this site than ever post. I know some council member who read it and at least one who posts here because I have spoken to them. That is all part of it. See rat, I believe that most people who complain here do more than complain here. I believe that many are like me and discuss the issues with friends and neighbors like I did tonight at dinner over a fine meal at one of our great restaurants where the next table over overheard us and then joined in how bad the police and courts are here. So, stop being holier than thou and just understand that your THINK is just that, what you THINK. Stop saying what you believe as fact. This councilman needs to go because he can no longer do his job without being a distraction just like the magistrate has become a barrier to justice not a conduit. "

    resident wrote on Oct 27, 2009 8:12 PM:

    " Gman Sissy and bobo. You're right, times have changed and it's nice to see not everyone is of your ilk. "

    Gman wrote on Oct 27, 2009 4:51 PM:

    " Bobo,
    Bada-Bing.
    You hit the nail on the head.
    Sadly, I am amazed at how many politically correct cowards we have posting here. I hope that's not an indication of the folks living in this town. "

    Sissy wrote on Oct 27, 2009 3:40 PM:

    " bobo, you are so right! People need to get on with the real problems of this country! cal reminds me of our president..he HAS to be right..must be in love with himself too! A lot of this started when 1 or 2 people wanted to take Christmas out of our schools...they got it didn't they? Then they wented to take God out of everything..they are trying their darndest..wouldn't it be something if God actually struck them down?? Believe what you want.some day you will find our for sure! Now, stand up for what you beleive in or we might as well not call this THE UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA any more! "

    bobo wrote on Oct 27, 2009 1:23 PM:

    " Have you noticed lately that if you disagree with someone, you are attacked as a racist, anti gay, or anti religious.
    And those pointing the finger couldn't possibly have a biased bone in their body. Hmmmm "

    bobo wrote on Oct 27, 2009 12:32 PM:

    " I think it's great that Lake Havasu City has a Manager who's a "little Jewish". I was taught that was a compliment about someone being responsible with money. Perhaps we need more of that in our Government. You thin skinned closet racists are the ones with the problem, always looking at the negatives side.
    And by the way, Gatekeeper, if you watched the story on MSNBC with Richard Maddow, you can rest assured, only a couple of people saw it. "

    Desertrat wrote on Oct 27, 2009 8:35 AM:

    " JM- you are right, I agree. I shouldn't have responded to his bait. Shame on me. "

    JM wrote on Oct 27, 2009 8:01 AM:

    " Did cal/hav really make a post reguarding desertrat when rat was no where on the comments?? Why would you do that? How much sense does that make? Everytime you 2 are posting on an article it is never about the article but instead about each other. Like a couple of quibbling neighbors yelling at each other about where the property line really stops and if those rose bushes really need to be moved....... Getting old kids.... "

    Desertrat wrote on Oct 27, 2009 7:05 AM:

    " mouse-wrong. Most people don't bother reading this forum because of the same old complaints for years and years. They have better things to do. Me? I just like the entertainment. "

    Non-hater wrote on Oct 26, 2009 11:47 PM:

    " "Poor choice of words"? I think the author of this article is being kind! When the poeple who run this city start letting these types of "insensitive" comments "slip" it is time for them to go! Lee needs to resign and take his narrow mind with him!!!
    Wow, and this is the man who sat on our school board for so long and educated out children? Heaven help our kids! "

    O'really wrote on Oct 26, 2009 11:02 PM:

    " You are assuming that those of us who see the real issues ONLY post here Rat. I know I have spoken to council and potential council people before. I know that I talk to my customers all the time and more importantly, they talk to me. So assumptions you make are completely wrong. "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Oct 26, 2009 10:54 PM:

    " Where are the headlines that BARNES has RESIGNED ?? "

    Desertrat wrote on Oct 26, 2009 7:38 PM:

    " I repeat, depends on whom you speak to what THE problem is - we already know the few LHC bashers on this site are against the PD, FD, court, judge, city council, etc. Then there are some who complain about the shop owners. Some do not like the snowbirds. Then some complain about the medical community, the chamber, well, you get the picture. There is no ONE problem that plagues most cities, but a majority of them. Unfortunately, complaining on here does nothing. Go out in the real world. THAT is where you make a difference. "

    Desertmouse wrote on Oct 26, 2009 5:11 PM:

    " please keep posting desertostrich. Your posts allow those of us who are not ignorant nor apathetic to make more people aware by responding to your pedomorphic banter. "

    O'really wrote on Oct 26, 2009 3:55 PM:

    " So rat, people being aware of the problem but ignoring it by going out and not doing anything is not apathy but trying to get the word out by talking to fellow citizens on this site IS apathy? You have a strange dictionary. "

    Desertrat wrote on Oct 26, 2009 1:47 PM:

    " Cal- Nope. Apathy is when you just don't care. People care, they just try to make a difference by GOING OUT IN THE WORLD, not sitting and complaining on a computer. Hey, why don't you find Brightone and have a couple beers? Might cheer you up! "

    cal/hav wrote on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM:

    " 'But most people go out in the world and try to enjoy it despite its problems."
    Sounds like APATHY to me. Just ignore the problems and hope go away. "

    resident wrote on Oct 25, 2009 8:43 AM:

    " james, his remarks may seem insignificant but the real issue is expectations. Don't you expect more from your public officials?

    I don't know mr.barnes but if he can not express himself without thoughtfulness, public office may not be the best forum for him to contribute to the city. "

    MN wrote on Oct 25, 2009 4:47 AM:

    " BTW: This goes on in a lot of cities...not every city has a few nut jobs that leak it to the press..you only have YOURSELF to BLAME for LH getting bad press and a bad name..and YOU want to Help our city? HA! There are a few people that will do and say anything to make their point right! SHAME ON THEM!! "

    MN wrote on Oct 25, 2009 4:42 AM:

    " Come ooon people..you have never made a mistake in your whole life? Yes, he shouldn't have said it, but he did and he apoligized. It is no worse than other people calling white people, cracker and they do it all of the time. Do I take offense to it? No! This whole dam- country is going to he!! in a hand basket because people are too sensitive! It even goes back to our president. I don't care what color or religion he is. People need to do their job! There are bigger fish to fry here, and in our country. Sorry if I have offended fishermen! or women!Or straights or gays or lefts or rights or blacks or whites or yellows or reds or browns....See how stupid this gets? Now get back to business! You too MR. PRESIDENT. and watching MSNBC... what a joke. ESP Keith Oberman..and Rachel Madog.they can't wait to throw people under the bus with their craziness! Just like some of you. If YOU can do a better job, I want to see your name on the next election ballet! Then we will all scutinize your every word and your every move..I hope you have enough asprin! "

    james wrote on Oct 24, 2009 8:24 PM:

    " Oh come on you folks, get over it. Mr. Barnes doesn't need to apologise to anyone. You folks have nothing better to do then to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Reminds me of Jackson and Sharpton trying to tell us what words we are allowed to use..get over it and it did not hurt the community except in your sick mind..get a life.. "

    ! wrote on Oct 24, 2009 2:10 PM:

    " Our children need to know that this will not be excepted and Mr Barnes needs to publicly needs to apologise at the next council meeting. The school district needs to remove his name from the football stadium. Our children need to now the standards that they are held to, in school, will apply to adults. "

    lhcwasteland wrote on Oct 24, 2009 2:01 PM:

    " I'm laughing reading Lake Havasu's news. What the h.ll is going on there. Lake Havasu needs it's own reality show. Talk about comedy central.The things they make time to worry about and let the more important slip under their cheeks. "

    Apollo13 wrote on Oct 24, 2009 10:30 AM:

    " To Councilman Lee Barnes: Do the right thing. Resign your post immediately. You shame us. "

    stealthfighter wrote on Oct 24, 2009 7:03 AM:

    " Johnjay,

    i will agree with a few people in this forum on one point, the timing of the quote was not right, but any of us who have been around for awhile KNOW the saying...it is NOTHING any adult has not heard before. Its obvious the personal vendettas people have in creating something out of nothing...a complete overreaction of something thats being taken out of proportion. Barnes can shoot from the hip with his words, as we all know. If Biden had said this on a national stage it would have been ignored. Barnes admitted his comments to not be taken out of context....life goes on...i think some of you have personal vendettas when speaking in this forum....and that is wrong. The focus should be on getting a better city manager. Kaff had no business being hired based on his past city mgr failures...Our city council has made some mistakes over the past several years, ranging from not helping secure the bridge to sewer errors to hiring mistakes...but to say this is going to ruin our city bla bla is overkill and unhelpful to anyone. Kaff doesnt deserve a penny. Lets get our priorities straight..something the city council needs to do as well. along with a few people in this forum.... "

    hava-NY-er wrote on Oct 24, 2009 6:54 AM:

    " Here Here Oldone...too many sensitive people around. Move on to more pressing issues. The man apologized. Quit being a bunch of babies. "

    Desertrat wrote on Oct 24, 2009 5:04 AM:

    " Cal-lol. Glad I am such a focus point for you. Everyone cares about their community. But most people go out in the world and try to enjoy it despite its problems. You, my friend, sit on here day in and day out and spew negativity. Go out and try to have some fun, might take away some of the misery! "

    5293 wrote on Oct 24, 2009 4:23 AM:

    " To everyone bashing: at least get it right, commenting about someone's religion is not racist... it is prejudiced.

    Not like any of you posters have never said anything prejudiced. "

    oldone wrote on Oct 23, 2009 8:44 PM:

    " Me thinks much adu about nothing. But I guess with the state of this Union,someone would get upset with anything someone in public says. Me I've lived long enough to know when to take something like this with a grain of salt. We all go to comedy clubs and hear all the racist jokes and people being put down and laugh. Lighten up folks none of us is going to get out of this alive so look for the importent stuff to get upset about. "

    lilmama1001 wrote on Oct 23, 2009 5:46 PM:

    " You have to think, Yeah he may have no meant to say it, and we may have taken it further then it was needed but you need to remember, he said it because thats how he thinks and feels. Do we want someone like that in office? "

    havasu♥lover wrote on Oct 23, 2009 11:14 AM:

    " Too bad everybody isn't paying better attention to the 280 acre thing, where their anger at the city would be put to better use. The timing of that remark, and this article, and the amount of attention it has attracted is amazing. Red Herring? "

    Sameo Sameo wrote on Oct 23, 2009 10:08 AM:

    " Mr. Barnes is getting a crash course in Political Correctness 101 and putting Havasu on the national stage better than the CVB could ever hope to do. Remember the famous words of Hollywood PR man Swifty Lazar "any PR that gets your name in the Headlines is good PR". Thanks a lot Mr. Barnes! "

    Gman wrote on Oct 23, 2009 9:15 AM:

    " BSmyth,
    You have it wrong, dead wrong, Jesus is not, let me repeat this, Jesus is not, in a grave. He conquered death and rose from the grave, thank God. "

    Arliss wrote on Oct 23, 2009 9:04 AM:

    " "city manager that got canned in Tuscon AND canned in Bullhead, can it get any better... "

    You forgot to add "and canned in LHC too"

    Since moving here 6 years ago I am still amazed at the overt Racism that goes on in this town, Barnes should resign. "

    cal/hav wrote on Oct 23, 2009 8:07 AM:

    " ROCCO SAID I know I am setting myself up for bashing from fellow bloggers. Welcome to those of us who observant enough to see what is really going on and how this city is being run into the ground. The leadership is as asleep at the controls as the Northwest Pilots were. People keep trying to talk to them but they don't listen. "

    johnjay wrote on Oct 23, 2009 7:23 AM:

    " stealth,
    Do you really not understand the damage Mr. Barnes has done to the community. Case in point, Mayor Nexsen is trying to push through Colorado River legislation, how does he go to members of the U.S. Senate, who have read this story and not have him viewed in an unfavorable light. How do you approach Senator Lieberman, Senator Wyden, Senator Feinstein or Senator Feingold, do you start off the conversation with an apology? You have no idea how much damage this man has done... "

    johnjay wrote on Oct 23, 2009 4:57 AM:

    " Havasu residents should read what they're saying about us in other news forums across the country. I've never had words applied to me as ignorant, backwards, uneducated. I feel really bad for the owners of places like London Bridge Resort, English Village, Lowes, Home Depot, Bashas, the mall resident, Shugrues Chain, The hotel owners, all the people that are being asked to cut hundreds of thousands of dollars in property tax checks and this is the kind of leadership they get. I guess if you're Barnes, Barlow or Callahan it doesn't really matter, "it's not my money". Do you really think any self respecting Senator or Representative from another city or state is going to want to go out of their way to help the residents of Havasu. Do you think any CEO who reads about us is going to say that's a good community to relocate and raise children, let's go there. I guess if you're these three council members it doesn't really matter, because "my names not on the check". "

    gatekeeper wrote on Oct 23, 2009 1:59 AM:

    " Barnes is being critisized nationally for his remarks, and the Phoenix news really went after him. To his statement about jewish people being good at raising thier kids, they basically said: yeah right, and went on to make some comment about black families and fried chicken! Not to mention how Kaffenberger's termination is now known across the United States! So much for him getting another City Manager job anytime soon. I bet Bruce Williams and Tim Ernster are glad they got the heck out of dodge when they did! Yeah right Mr. Callahan, I'm sure all the City Managers will want to come work here. Might as well hire the kid down at the AM/PM. Next article: Why is Havasu willing to pay 250K a year for a City Manager? LOL "

    BSmith wrote on Oct 22, 2009 10:46 PM:

    " Jesus must be rolling over in his grave right now. "

    dunhavasu wrote on Oct 22, 2009 10:00 PM:

    " Gatekeeper-- national news dosn't give a crap about Lake Havasu, the reason they jumped on the story is because anything to do with racism gets attention and ratings "

    stealthfighter wrote on Oct 22, 2009 9:42 PM:

    " just remember when Christ's name gets abused in print, tv, radio...nobody will turn a head, complain etc.....but the second anything related to the word jewish is mentioned....its all over the news instantly and its racist. Folks, Reuters and the AP are owned by the Rothschild elite,who are "jewish". OF COURSE this so called "important story" is going to be picked up by google and other elite controlled news sites....do your research folks....in other drudge news...the white house said they control the news..hmm didnt see that one picked up by MSNBC...BTW...Barnes is referring to a stereotypical jewish money joke made by comedians etc all the time....guess you have to be from Hollywood to be allowed to legally say it. You all are making mountains out of molehills...Consistently hippocritical in this forum....one person got it right in this forum...racism is a two way street...wait until the ADL gets a hold of this? what is wrong with you people?....go fly a kite...and while your looking up at the sky, ask God for some discernment. move on folks.... "

    LosTacos wrote on Oct 22, 2009 6:44 PM:

    " Wow made NY Times. Better hope the ACLU doesn't get wind of this, yet if the NY Times has, too late CNN and FOX next. It may shortly be allover for Mr. Barnes and the city council. Sounds like they need to clean house and get people who want tourists here? I'll say it again this city needs a real water park/boardwalk, fireworks every week, more events/concerts/programs to draw in people, a four year college(now not 10 yrs frm now)Fix the old English Village. If things don't change and the economy and tourism dies? Can we say Salton Sea and Havasu will be the new Bombay Beach. "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Oct 22, 2009 5:57 PM:

    " Why dont they print all posts?? I think this forum is monitored by city hall,,,Larry and Stuart are calling the shots,,,shame on your centureship "

    tim wrote on Oct 22, 2009 4:24 PM:

    " i dont care as much about what he said as i do care about what he does-every day-sitting in that office next to moe and larry(callahan and barlow) just taking advantage and costing all of us jobs and money.
    All three of them need to go!!! today!!
    and not continue to pay them like the other idiot!! "

    cal/hav wrote on Oct 22, 2009 2:14 PM:

    " Oh Come on people. Rat will say it is only one or two people bashing the Council now. Who goes to the New York Timws, or CNN and talks about Havasu. CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, just joined the ranks of them Darn Havasu bashers. Maybe the should just go out and enjoy the beautiful weather. See, in the media do give a RATS azz about whats happening here. "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Oct 22, 2009 12:29 PM:

    " I hope he hangs on for the recall, So we can off Barlow & Callahan too! "

    LHCPAST wrote on Oct 22, 2009 8:32 AM:

    " Guess there's no rewind for that statement...like the saying that goes something along the line of "We easily forget the name of the man who built the bridge but if he makes a mistake we SURE REMEMBER AND RUN WITH THAT". Anyone remember all the good Mr. Barnes has done for the lives of so many former LHHS students???? "

    lil bear wrote on Oct 22, 2009 6:25 AM:

    " ok this is out of control already we all have siad things we didnt mean to you all are quick to chop off his head for a few words get over it he has done wonderful things for this town ya all need to back off a bit "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Oct 22, 2009 1:19 AM:

    " If I were Lee Barnes I would go visit my boy in Iowa for a few years and let this blow over,Or better yet go to Minnesoda and take Callahan with you I heard him say the same thing,,Why dont the paper print all the posts ???Does the city run the paper too? "

    Havasu resident wrote on Oct 21, 2009 11:32 PM:

    " Wow the news is on:
    nytimes
    ABC news
    CBS news
    jewishbreakingnews
    phoenixnewtimes
    kpho.com
    newstin.com
    vosizneias.com
    examiner.com
    shoutback.com
    realclearpolitics.com
    kansascity.com
    azstarnet.com
    thesunnews.com
    KTAR.com
    star-telegram.com

    Way to put Havasu on the map!!!

    If the city wont do somthing about this soon, it wont be long before Jewish organizations will! With a city attorney like we have, We wont stand a chance! Oh I forget. our city lawyers hires lawyers to help him! "

    tekkie wrote on Oct 21, 2009 8:28 PM:

    " He thinks he had the right to say what he did, just as the Europeans who came to America felt they had the right to enslave the Natives and go to Africa for more slaves. They didn't think it was derogatory to enslave other human beings. When one thinks they have the right and didn't mean for it to be derogatory, that the racial slur should be a compliment you have a problem. You sir are in political office, you are held in higher regard as my taxes pay for your position. "

    gatekeeper wrote on Oct 21, 2009 8:23 PM:

    " So I’m sitting at home this evening watching MSNBC National news when I overheard the lady talking about Lake Havasu City. Wouldn’t you know it was regarding Councilman Barnes, and this article? National attention here people! Completely astounding regarding what people have been saying is finally coming true. Lake Havasu City moved past the 50K mark which means we are no longer considered a small town. This City is larger than 68% of all registered towns. We need to start acting like it, and realize no longer will our mistakes go unnoticed while we watch other cities being slammed in the news. Welcome to the big time. Mr. Mayor, you need to further demonstrate your leadership by putting your subordinates in place. These mistakes are going to start costing us both money and irreversible embarrassment! "

    johnjay wrote on Oct 21, 2009 6:59 PM:

    " Congratulations Mr. Barnes you made the New York Times. "

    johnjay wrote on Oct 21, 2009 6:55 PM:

    " Great AP just picked this story up...Unbelievable "

    johnjay wrote on Oct 21, 2009 6:47 PM:

    " Congratulations Lake Havasu, it's all over the entire country, we have total morons as our city council representatives, so far 186 article are showing up on Google. Can't wait for JPL and the Simon Wiesenthal center to get involved, I'm sure national will pick this up pretty fast, can't wait for Barnes to be on MSNBC. And to add insult to injury, we're also known as the city that hired, the city manager that got canned in Tuscon AND canned in Bullhead, can it get any better... "

    notsoNB wrote on Oct 21, 2009 4:02 PM:

    " So how do we get his name off of the high school statium? I think the JDL would love to get a hold of this. "

    johnjay wrote on Oct 21, 2009 1:19 PM:

    " Mr. Barnes seriously you need to step down, it's not worth going through what's going to happen to you just to have a little political power. We need some new ideas and new political blood in the city and I don't think you and the other two members who voted for the current regime want to be the poster children of what's wrong in our community. "

    KRISMA wrote on Oct 21, 2009 12:50 PM:

    " Does a person need to be of the Jewish faith to know when something is despicable and wrong? Regardless of what your faith or color of your skin, most good people of our city know that what was said by Mr. Barnes wasn't just a faux pas nor was it being complimentary. It was ignorant, rude and insensitive to everyone of us because he sits on that city council speaking on our behalf. It's just as bad as using the "N" word or any other rotten insult against a group of people to stereotype them. There is no excuse to be made for this. He needs to go something needs to be done other than just the mayor talking to him about it. I don't want this man representing our city knowing he thinks this way. "

    Gman wrote on Oct 21, 2009 12:36 PM:

    " Suck it up you politically correct cowards.
    Why is it you liberal progressive cowards are so quick to point the neener-neener finger?
    Why all the anger?
    Your whining speaks loudly to your character.
    Besides, how about; "LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE". "

    lhccmnsns wrote on Oct 21, 2009 11:30 AM:

    " Oy vey, Mr. Barnes. We will gladly accept your resignation. Or, is there a need for another emergency council meeting? -
    LHC conservative. "

    Mr. Havasu wrote on Oct 21, 2009 10:32 AM:

    " Arliss, Barnes's use of the word Jew does not make him a racist! It would make him an anti semite. If you can't understand basic termonology it makes you as ignorant as Barnes who you are criticing.

    Additionally, This type of criticism is getting out of control, we all know what he meant and we know he meant nothing by it and the ones of you yelling the loudest probably aren't even Jewish! "

    ivehadit wrote on Oct 21, 2009 9:50 AM:

    " Arliss- Learn the difference between "Racism" and Politically Correctness. The Liberal Left loves to throw out the "racism" term rather than look at the facts of the statements made by those with opposing views. Have you ever thought you may be not only a latent racist trying to cover it up by throwing out those terms and clearly bias against anyone that opposes you? "

    Roco wrote on Oct 21, 2009 9:34 AM:

    " I attended the meeting last night and I could not believe this kind of trash coming out of the mouth of one of our city's leaders. I personally have experienced this kind of behavior from a small minority of fellow citizens and from some tourists, but I never thought I would hear this kind of dribble from a city official. I know I am setting myself up for bashing from fellow bloggers, but here it is. I expect this attitude from a small portion of the population of a small town. I know it exist behind closed doors. But this should not be tolerated from anyone, especially a city official. This less than half-hearted apology should not and is not acceptable. "

    havasu♥lover wrote on Oct 21, 2009 9:25 AM:

    " Jewish people have been well known for being "frugal" since biblical times. And most Jewish people that I've known over the years seem to have a fair amount of pride in that fact. And using the word JEW is not offensive like the N word. So, if taken in proper context, Barnes words should be complimentary, not offensive.

    PUBLIC HEARING REMINDER: Another big public hearing is scheduled tonight, at the LHC City Council Chambers, 6-8pm.

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    w.lhcaz.gov/dsd/planningAndZoning/havasu280Meeting.html "

    resident wrote on Oct 21, 2009 9:24 AM:

    " this is not an unfortunate slip of the tongue, it is an unacceptable representation of the city. He should resign. "

    KRISMA wrote on Oct 21, 2009 9:19 AM:

    " You know blaming a whole political party for the stupidity of one person is just as ignorant as what Barnes said about a whole race of people. It doesn't matter whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, what Barnes said is wrong and there are as many indiscretions from people who call themselves Democrats as well. It doesn't mean the whole Democratic party is at fault for the stupidity of one person's ignorant remarks. We live in 2009 folks, it's time to wake up and watch what you say with things like this. Blaming a whole group of people is just wrong and making remarks about a whole group of religious people is wrong too. Ignorance is ignorance and some people just don't get it or think before they open their stupid mouths. Bottom line, I feel Mr. Barnes should be removed from the city council. I don't want that ignorance representing my city and speaking on our behalf as citizens. I think Mr. Nexsen is a good mayor flanked by 6 idiots of our city council. I think all of them should be replaced. They don't have our best interest at heart and it's blatantly obvious or Kaffenberger wouldn't have been allowed to get away with what he has gotten away with. "

    johnjay wrote on Oct 21, 2009 8:25 AM:

    " Arliss, you're just as guilty as he is. Bigotry, Racism, Stereotyping is a two lane highway. I think most of us would prefer to not be on that road. "

    johnjay wrote on Oct 21, 2009 8:15 AM:

    " "What I meant there is Jewish people are pretty good with their money"

    Wow, isn't that line right out Schindler's List. You would make a good National Socialist Mr. Barnes, right before you started exterminating human beings. And this character represents me....This guy needs to go right now. "

    Arliss wrote on Oct 21, 2009 6:14 AM:

    " Another phony apology from a conservative.

    There was just another story yesterday about a GOP Rep who made the same exact inference, that Jews are cheap and watch their money carefully.

    If Republicans EVER expect to be elected again and given majorities they need to stop with all the Racism against Jews, Blacks and Hispanics. Racism is no longer tolerated like it was in the past. "

    intellectual wrote on Oct 21, 2009 1:32 AM:

    " If there wasn’t enough drama and deception in the air, one City leader decides to aggravate the crisis by voicing some stereo typical comment entirely out of place for a public forum which represents the diversity of the people who live here in Lake Havasu. Although I’m reasonably sure Mr. Barnes meant nothing inappropriate with his remarks, I truly feel there are those in this community holding important positions who often forget themselves. Circumstances such as these can only intensify the public’s perception of what really goes on at City Hall. Today I’m far from impressed. There are many Managers in this City who rose through the ranks, and most seem to forget a large portion of this Community is made up of retired business leaders. Not everyone is ill-bred here folks. We watch, we listen, and no one is fooling anybody. There is some staff members who lack the experience to grasp their actions will inevitably run head on at the wrong person, and it will end up costing this City a bundle. From the recent topics I’m hearing about, Lake Havasu should be thankful as these poor practices are well overdue for a legal nightmare. Unless there is decisive change, it won’t be long. Everyone insolently betrays they know it all, and it’s a good thing because we the public demand proper action, and those incompetent people guided only by their egos and positioned under the Peter principal need to be fired and replaced with those with integrity, superior people skills, and an ability to get the job done minus the drama. Mayor Nexsen appears to be very sharp, and would be prudent to initiate a heart to heart with his leaders because this nonsense is getting out of control. "

    KRISMA wrote on Oct 21, 2009 12:05 AM:

    " Open Foot Insert Mouth, Mr. Barnes? SHAME ON YOU!!!! This is who we have running our city? Mr. Nexsen please fire this man immediately! "

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