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Sewer bills to decline

By NATHAN BRUTTELL
Today's News-Herald
Published Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:26 PM MST

Residents should start seeing a decline in their estimated sewer bills within the next few months.


Interim Public Works Director Mark Clark told City Council during a work session on the Wastewater System Expansion Program that city staff should have a much more accurate estimate for projected sewer bills by about May 2010. Clark made the statement after council members questioned why sewer bill estimates had not fallen after the city saved about $78 million in projected costs. The average residential sewer bill is projected to be about $65.63 in 2010-11 more than the November 2001 published estimate of $59.28.

Councilman Brian Wedemeyer said citizens should know why their bills have not dropped yet.

“In the name of public communication, these things need to be spelled out for the citizens,” he said. “Because we keep patting ourselves on the back talking about how much less the sewer costs, then they’re going to want to see that their bills are less or we’re going to need to explain to them why they’re not.”

City staff explained that about 10 percent or 4,500 fewer sewer connections than originally expected contributed to the higher bills. Mayor Mark Nexsen added that the city must be positive of the change before adjusting bills.

“The last thing we want to do is reduce the rates and go oops, we made a boo-boo and we’ve got to raise them back up,” he said. “So as soon as we can firm up that number … hopefully what we’re able to do, as we did in 2008, we can adjust those projected rates down again.”

City Engineer Greg Froslie highlighted the previous eight-year history of the sewer project during the work session.

“We’ve completed work on just under 14,000 homes and we’ve got about 7,000 in remaining projects,” Froslie said. “We’re also saving about $78 million and should complete everything about two years ahead of schedule.”

Nexsen said he wanted to add that while residents may focus on their monthly bills, that as a matter of perspective, the estimated $65.63 average bill in 2010-11 will be much lower than a May 2007 projection of more than $82.

“I specifically remember the (2011-12 projection in May 2007) where now we’re down to $73, it was darn near $100 average bill,” Nexsen said. “So while we have reduced the number of connections that has not allowed these numbers to drop as much as we want, we have nevertheless through the reduction in costs … we have been able to do reduce the projected rate by nearly 25 percent.”

Froslie also mentioned challenges such as the double-digit inflation in 2004, various lateral failures, water service replacement costs and construction staging yards. Clark said he believed the challenges and difficulties did not outweigh the successes of the project.

“Just to give you a feel for an order of magnitude, the project has come in millions and millions of dollars less through innovations and savings through the economy,” Clark said. “And some of these aw shucks’s are in the neighborhood of several hundred thousand dollars.”

Several members of city staff said work will continue on attempting to lower monthly bills through possible grants, negative interest loans and other various projects.

“Just because the project is over doesn’t mean we’re going to stop fighting to lower these rates,” Nexsen said.

Cassens said rates would be consistently reviewed to keep bills as low as possible.

“As we close out the project and we get a handle on exactly what the flows are going to be and the operational maintenance costs are going to be, then we’ll be able to really polish this number down to get it as low as it can be,” he said.

Nexsen agreed, attempting to sum up the sewer project.

“The idea is to try to get some relief for this community,” he said. “What we view this as is an unfunded federal mandate. We were told in pretty certain terms of what would happen if we didn’t do what we were told to do but no check. As I continue to get sympathy in Washington, I’ve told them I can’t write a check with sympathy. I want to write a check because there’s real dollars coming from Washington D.C. to help this community.”

You can contact the reporter at nbruttell@havasunews.com

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Comments (16 comment(s))

    ! wrote on Dec 21, 2009 8:43 AM:

    " I'm no engineer but if you could take the discarded water from your water softener and R/O and use it in your swamp cooler you could save. "

    tomgarven wrote on Dec 19, 2009 10:33 PM:

    " bill516 wrote [in part] Those swamper/water numbers look excessive!,

    You are right. By the time you figure in the water, electricity [3/4 or 1 H.P] and annual maintenance cost it doesn't seem worth it any more. Just going to install a more efficient ground mounted AC unit. "

    bill516 wrote on Dec 19, 2009 9:00 AM:

    " Looks like our bill will increase about $60.00/month, thats almost 150%.I suppose its relative, back east your paying property taxes of $10,000/yr,depending.

    Those swamper/water numbers look excessive!, I would do without the bleed off and maintenance twice a year.I wonder how deep the water table is here?, prolly not very!! LOL!! "

    Roco wrote on Dec 18, 2009 12:25 PM:

    " Tom: I appreciate your information about the evaporative coolers and I do understand that it uses water a bit more than what I expect. "

    tomgarven wrote on Dec 18, 2009 8:34 AM:

    " Roco and Bills516 I will try and answer both of your questions. First Roco here is what I found doing a Google search "evaporative cooler water use". Arizona and the Water Services Department at The City of Phoenix [did a study]. This study monitored evaporative coolers at 46 homes in Phoenix. The data from this study indicates that water usage of an evaporative cooler in Phoenix was about 7.6 gallons for each hour that the cooler was operated (4.4 gallons per hour for systems without bleed-off and 10.4 gallons per hour for systems with bleed-off."
    THAT IS A LOT OF WATER ISN'T IT? If your cooler runs continuously you are talking about 249.6 gallons per day or 7488 gallons per month[30 days] if it has a bleed-off. I can't find my water cost sheet but this amount of water is not cheap. My water bill also shows a spike in June because that is when I replace some of the water in my pool.

    Buy the way, when my existing cooler wears out I am going to go with a high efficiency, ground mounted A/C unit.

    A quick way to check for leaks in your water line is to make sure everything is shut off in the house then go our to the street and look at your meter. If the little tiny hand is still turning you either don't have everything shut off in the house or you have a leak somewhere.

    bill516 wrote on Dec 17, 2009 8:38 AM:
    "My bill currently is about $40.00 with trash included

    The $39.44/month I quoted was my actual sewer charge. So I guess you could just add that amount to your existing bill which would make it almost the same as my bill. My total bill varies between about $73.00 and $79.00/month. I paid my $2000.00 connection fee [another $20/mo] up front so if you decide to make those payment you would need to add that to your bill. Hope this helps


    Best answer I can give. "

    Roco wrote on Dec 17, 2009 10:44 AM:

    " To Tom G.: I am in the same boat that you are in> I have a few more plants then you do, but I monitor my bubbler very well. But, what I can't understand is every June my water consumption more than doubles. Not a thing changes with my water consumption but my consumption goes up. I have had my home audited and have not found any thing out of the ordinary. The past June I had not even change my watering over for the summer. At one time I was told that operating 2 evaporative coolers could cause this increase. REALLY?!?!? I was even told that I had a leak that could not be found. If I had a leak, wouldn't you think there would be some kind of new growth? Something is wrong with the charges Even with the electricity rates, something is not right. "

    bill516 wrote on Dec 17, 2009 8:38 AM:

    " tg, My bill currently is about $40.00 with trash included, we don't have any inordinate water use.No landscaping,pools or swampers(my wife thinks the swamper is an a.c. and I'm tired of trying to convince her otherwise).I'm very curious what the bill will be when they hook us up, only a few months from now.I've heard stories of $100-150.00/month which seems pretty high to me, we'll see. "

    tomgarven wrote on Dec 17, 2009 7:33 AM:

    " bill516 wrote on Dec 16, 2009 [in part] what I'm hearing my bill will be rising from around $40.00/month to around $125.00/month ???. And you still can't drink the water

    Tom G. responds. I don't know how much water you use but we live in an average 3 bedroom, 2 bath house with a pool and some minor desert landscaping. Also use 2 evaporative coolers and replace about 1/3 of the pool water once per year which is done outside of the 4 month use data collection period. I do use a pool cover to cut down on evaporation from the pool in the winter.

    Our sewer bill is $39.44/month. We don't skimp on water but by the same token we don't waste it either. We installed low flow shower heads and 1.6 gallon toilets and leaks are fixed as soon as I find them.

    But the big advantage to me is not the sewer but rather how much our water quality has improved. About 2 years ago the city brought a new water treatment plant online and our water quality has improved considerable. Remember when your water ran brown from time to time? Those days are long gone. Water quality has improved considerably. "

    MN wrote on Dec 17, 2009 5:33 AM:

    " I NEVER COULD UNDERSTAND WHY SEWER BILLS HAVE TO REFLECT ON THE AMT OF WATER USED. THE OUTSIDE WATER USAGE IS NOT GOING INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM! Some cities have seperate meters, but then you end up paying for that! ya just can't beat city hall! "

    dubld wrote on Dec 16, 2009 6:55 PM:

    " As a whole, the sewer bills will not be going down. This is a completely bogus comment & should be rebuked as soon as possible. "

    longtimeinhavasu wrote on Dec 16, 2009 6:52 PM:

    " Reply to Hidija:

    The average sewer bill is about $55 so to start, at 17,000 accounts its about $1,000,000. Currently the city is on pace to borrow about $380,000,000 so not counting interest, assuming no operational costs, it will take 30 years to pay back the cost of the loans for construction. Operations is a small part of the cost, its the actual construction of all of the sewer lines and the new plant north of town that factor into the billing. You and everyone else are paying for the construction of the system as a part of your bill rather than a $20,000 assesment like Bullhead City is paying.

    In reality, you take off the $34,000,000 that the $2,000 fee covers (17,000 accounts) and that ends up being about the amount of operational money over 10 or so years. "

    Beyond Today wrote on Dec 16, 2009 5:54 PM:

    " There was no mention of a reduction of the sewer rates by city staff. Our bills will stay the same. Nice job Today News. "

    Hidija wrote on Dec 16, 2009 4:45 PM:

    " I don't know if anyone else has done the Math???? If we have 14000 home connected @$75 per month, which is what I pay the city has $1,050,000 coming in monthly??? Seems like a lot of money to run sewer system! Then when they get the other 7,000 homes hooked up they will be collecting $1,575,000 per month to operate it? Do you suppose some of that money is being diverted to other expenses??????? I think the sewer charges are REDICULOUS! "

    tiredofbunk wrote on Dec 16, 2009 12:19 PM:

    " Silly, they dont show you anything. They read the meter and bill you based on the reading just like the electric company does. Also they use a four month average starting in December to arrive at your sewer bill for the year. Just call city hall and get the facts. "

    bill516 wrote on Dec 16, 2009 11:18 AM:

    " I haven't been hooked up yet but from what I'm hearing my bill will be rising from around $40.00/month to around $125.00/month ???. And you still can't drink the water, unbelievable, $150.00/month for water.We're outta here, hopefully within the year!! "

    silly savage wrote on Dec 16, 2009 7:22 AM:

    " How about a refund on past overcharging? Last Nov & Dec. they showed me with my highest usage of water of the year. Just to get my sewer bill up? Those are the months of my least usage. "

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