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Civic leaders worry about BLM fee plan

By NATHAN BRUTTELL
Today's News-Herald
Published Friday, June 18, 2010 10:01 AM MST

Possible federal fees on Lake Havasu could cripple the city.


That’s the sentiment among several city officials who met with Bureau of Land Management representatives earlier this month. The BLM, which has the rights to the waters below the 450-foot elevation marker, is currently administering an environmental assessment on the lake to determine Special Recreation Permit Regulations. BLM representatives say the process could be complete in October, but a number of hospitality officials within the city already agree the fees will hinder tourism.

“These new fees are definitely going to have some of our events reeling or folding altogether,” said Convention and Visitors Bureau President/CEO Doug Traub. “Some of these regulations could effectively shut down our ability to market ourselves to film and other events in our city. I mean, darn it, that’s our bread and butter here.”

BLM Lake Havasu Manager Ramone McCoy said it is too early to speculate on the impact of the fees.

“Keep in mind that these environmental assessments are public documents and open to public comments once they’re complete,” McCoy said, adding that the fees and regulations should follow the same as BLM California. “BLM is responsible for administration of recreation activities on the lake. We are slowly going through the process of administering those duties. We started out with the vendors and our next step is the competitive and organized events.”

The minimum fee for a Special Recreation Permit is $90, according to BLM California, and all other possible fees depend on the specific type of event.

“The fees set by the BLM director depend on the type of use,” McCoy said. “The fees for commercial use are 3 percent of the gross receipts collected. Competitive use or organized group/event use fees are $4 per participant per day, 3 percent of gross receipts, or the minimum annual fee, which ever is greater. When use is both commercial and competitive, the higher fee is charged.”

McCoy said she expects the fees to relate to many events on Lake Havasu, including regattas.

Traub said the CVB did an analysis based on 15 events the organization promoted in 2009 and did a cost-estimate to find out the difference the new fees could make.

“It would mean an increase in a minimum of $30,000 just among those 15 events,” Traub said. “With the competitive events and the per-participant fee, the $4,000 that was spent last year would turn into $120,000. Total exposure, we could be looking at as high as $300,000 and that’s just from those 15 events.”

In terms of possible revenue for the city, Traub said he sees potential for an “astronomical increase in fees and detrimental effects to our revenue stream.”

“We also estimate (the fees) would comprise about 25 percent of the estimated revenue of all of the events on the lake,” Traub told the Lake Havasu Marine Association members Wednesday evening. “It certainly infringes on the revenues our city relies upon. For all of these reasons, it is definitely not a plus for tourism in our community.”

Mayor Mark Nexsen met with McCoy Thursday in part to discuss the possible fees.

“My emphasis was I realize they have a job to do. However, I have to look at the overall big picture, and we can’t have significant fees impact local events because they won’t come here anymore,” Nexsen said, adding that BLM Lake Havasu officials have showed a “willingness to work with the city.”

“I said before we set any kind of rates in stone and before the cement begins to dry, I’d like to have an opportunity to sit down with them to say what is it we can do to not only meet their obligations but not drive events away from our city,” he said.

The BLM, in coordination with the city, removed all shoreline and floating vendors from Rotary Park and London Bridge beaches in July 2009. The City Council voted to deny access to two shoreline vendors for Rotary Park Beach in January after several citizens voiced concern during a regular meeting. BLM officials say they will honor the council’s decision and not allow permits at Rotary Park Beach. All commercial vendors were instructed to follow BLM requirements for filing a SRP application for consideration, review, and approval or denial, according to the environmental assessment.

City Councilman Dean Barlow also spoke about the potential impact of the fees at the Marine Association meeting. He read the following section of an e-mail received from BLM Assistant Manager Mike Henderson:

“‘I hope that this is something that can be ironed out. … Again all of this is coming about after the City Council request for the BLM to begin enforcing commercial vending issues along the city beach areas of Lake Havasu. The issues did not stop there and are now continuing slowly throughout the area of BLM responsibility on Lake Havasu.’”

“What that means to me is they’re blaming the whole thing on us,” Barlow said. “Well this obviously is going much, much, much further than vendors on our city beaches.”

Marine Association Executive Director Jim Salscheider said he is concerned and in the process of learning more about the fees and a possible course of action.

“This could clearly have some ramifications on our tourism,” he said Wednesday. “We just don’t know the impact it’s going to have yet.”

For further details on the possible fees in regard to the Special Recreation Permits, residents are asked to visit BLM California’s website at www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/prog/recreation/recpermit.html.

You can contact the reporter at nbruttell@havasunews.com

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    DUSAN wrote on Jun 28, 2010 11:09 AM:

    " Actually you are right the fed's do have the rights ,Just not the BLM it is the ArmyCorp of Engineers and the Bureau of Reclamation,,,It will all shake out soon enough and you will see the BLM was selling "Wolf Tickets" "

    ! wrote on Jun 26, 2010 9:47 AM:

    " The water is a federal waterway and the feds have jurisdiction no matter the water level. The 450' mark is for land jurisdiction along the lake. The city has jurisdiction on land, in city limits, to the 450' mark. The channel water is federal but because it's man made the land below it is city and/or state. That's how I understand it. "

    Mutant wrote on Jun 25, 2010 9:42 PM:

    " well, well it seems a lot of "kettles" are calling themselves er you know "blonde"- where else did the sinking ship have to go except strike the iceberg called BLaMe every one except me? I see the city making a profit for special "special" event exceptions. For the Mayor of Havafew must surely be able to hornswaggle a bunch of feds. right? "

    cal/hav wrote on Jun 25, 2010 7:36 PM:

    " The Maximum elevation of Parker Dam is 450 ft. If water rose above that it would be spilling over the dam. BLM has control accordingly.
    Lake Mead is 1229, Lake Mohave is 647, Lake Havasu is 450. One need only look at Lake Powell to see what is in Store for Havasu.
    Entrance Fee
    1-7 Day Vehicle Pass - $15Admits one single, private, non-commercial vehicle and all its passengers. 1-7 Day Individual Permit - $7 per personAdmits one individual when entering on foot, or bicycle. Not to exceed $15 vehicle fee. Individuals 15 years of age and younger are admitted free.Individual Permit (organized non-profit groups) - $7 per personONLY applies to organized non-profit groups (service organizations, scouts, religious groups, college/school groups not qualifying for a fee waiver). Individuals under the age of 16 are admitted free.Glen Canyon NRA Annual Pass - $30Allows unlimited entry to Glen Canyon for 12 months from date of purchase.NOTE: The America the Beautiful-National Parks and Federal Recreation Lands Annual, Senior, and Access Passes will be available beginning January 1, 2007.America the Beautiful-National Parks and Federal Recreational Lands Pass - $80Provides access to, and use of, Federal recreation sites that charge an Entrance or Standard Amenity Fee. Pass is valid for one year from date of purchase. Pass admits the passholder/s and passengers in a non-commercial vehicle at per vechicle fee areas, and passholder + 3 adults, at per person areas (children under 16 are admitted free).America the Beautiful-National Parks and Federal Recreation Lands Pass-Senior Pass - $10A lifetime pass for U.S. citizens or permanent residents age 62 and over. The pass provides access to, and use of, Federal recreation sites that charge an Entrance or Standard Amenity fee. The pass admits the passholder and passengers in a non-commercial vehicle at per vehicle fee areas and passholder + 3 adults, at per person fee areas (children under 16 are admitted free). Proof of age and residency is required. Pass must be obtained in person.America the Beautiful-National Parks and Federal Recreation Lands Pass - Access Pass - FREEA lifetime pass issued to U.S. citizens or permanent residents with a permanent disability. The pass provides access to, and use of, Federal recreation sites that charge an Entrance or Standard Amenity fee. The pass admits the passholder and passengers in a non-commercial vehicle at per vehicle fee areas and passholder + 3 adults, at per person fee areas (children under 16 are admitted free). Pass must be obtained in person. America the Beautiful- National Parks and Federal Recreation Lands Pass - Volunteer Pass - FreeThis pass is for volunteers acquiring 500 service hours on a cumulative basis. It provides access to, and use of, Federal recreation sites that charge an Entrance or Standard Amenity fee. Pass is valid for one year from date of award. The pass admits the passholder and passengers in a non-commercial vehicle at per vehicle fee areas and passholder + 3, at per person fee areas. Contact the VIP coordinator at 928-608-6200 to learn about volunteer opportunites.Recreation information for all Federal agencies can be found at: www.recreation.gov*All National Park Passes, Golden Eagle, Golden Eagle Hologram, Golden Access and Golden Age Passports will continue to be honored according to the provisions of the pass. "

    DUSAN wrote on Jun 25, 2010 6:12 PM:

    " Actually the blm has no jurisdiction what so ever, And the proper authoritys have been notifyed,,,However like the bank regulaters and the inspectors for the oil rigs,,,little will get done til MSNBC show's the story, Schedualed to air in 3 weeks "

    Havasu Resident wrote on Jun 25, 2010 12:14 PM:

    " " I’m confused about BLM’s 450ft jurisdiction.

    So if the water level rises to 450.1 or higher they don’t have any jurisdiction?

    What about Lake Mohave at 638ft? BLM has no jurisdiction there or in Lake Mead?

    Can anyone answer? " "

    DUSAN wrote on Jun 24, 2010 8:12 PM:

    " The guys that engineered this "Don Callahan, Jim Salscheider, Dean Barlow, They are nearing EOL so they are nasty OLD Codgers that dont like people to have fun, They should be paying the permits out of their own pockets "

    BRIGHT0NE wrote on Jun 24, 2010 4:42 PM:

    " Yea thanx a lot Callahan,Salscheider, Barlow, You couldnt play nice and ruined it for everybody! "

    BRIGHT0NE wrote on Jun 24, 2010 4:38 PM:

    " I am shocked that the BLM guy Ramone McCoy would get on the radio KNTR and remove all doubt about her intelligence or lack there of ! Wonder who he knew to get his job? "

    C00LBRIDGE wrote on Jun 23, 2010 2:50 PM:

    " The Marine Assn, (remember the petition)
    Dean Barlow & Don Callahan(City Council) Are the engineers of this injustice, Please call them and tell them thanx "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Jun 23, 2010 1:33 PM:

    " I think the people that havent had to get permits need to pay retro 3% back to July 17 2009 when the first round of selective enforcement took place, I have a feeling BLM is going to be writing a much larger check "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Jun 23, 2010 10:20 AM:

    " EDITOR
    Why is the paper not printing all the posts? The people are mad and the newspaper should be also "

    cal/hav wrote on Jun 22, 2010 1:26 PM:

    " Special Recreation Permits are authorizations which allow specified recreational uses of the public lands and related waters. They are issued as a means to manage visitor use, protect natural and cultural resources, and provide a mechanism to accommodate commercial recreational uses. Authorized by the Land and Water Conservation Fund Act, there are five types of uses for which these permits are required: commercial, competitive, vending, individual or group use in special areas, and organized group activity and event use.

    1.Commercial Use – Commercial Use is defined as RECREATIONAL use of public lands and related waters for business or financial gain. When any person, group, or organization makes or attempts to make a profit, receive money, amortize equipment, or obtain goods or services, as compensation from participants in recreational activities occurring on public lands, the use is considered commercial.
    LHHMarine Association Does this!
    Dixie Bell Does This
    Dreamecatcher Does This
    London Bridge Resort Does This (Docks)
    Nautical Does this (WaterPark and House Boats)
    2.Competitive Use – Competitive Use means any organized, sanctioned, or structured use, event, or activity on public land in which two or more contestants compete and either (1) participants register, enter, or complete an application for the event, or (2) a predetermined course or area is designated.

    Examples: Regattas, Jet Ski races, Desert Storm, bike races,

    3.Vending – Vendor permits are temporary, short-term, non-exclusive, revocable authorizations to sell goods or services on public lands in conjunction with a recreation activity. Again Dixie Bell, Vessel Assist, The Marina Sells Dock Spaces, And Launch Charges, Fuel, and all the good in the Floating Marina Store. By the way, isn't it in the NO WAKE ZONE. Why are THEY STILL OPEN?
    Boy this council sure opened up a can of worms. Glad BOB opened up a can of whip Az. "

    Daytona572 wrote on Jun 20, 2010 8:56 PM:

    " The Dixie Bell is VENDING on the water,and selling Alcohol which is NOT permitted in vending ?

    The KonTikki is Vending?

    The Bud Light Boat is Advertisingg and Vending?

    I guess if you are with the London Bridge Resort things Change.

    They put me out of business and now say they are reviewing their status.

    This is NOT done by any means and let`s see where the "Big Boys" fall in this ordeal.

    I had to laugh on the BLM Fees article, Dean Barlow is now concerned the BLM is pointing fingers at the City Council. What do you think DEAN I sat and watched you and Callahan demand Vendors off the beach and BLM take control. You are sleeping with Jim S. at the LHCMA and we are going to do everything in our power to change that.
    This City Council is NOT for us and the needs of our community.

    I wish the City would get Windsor and then a NEW Vendor could bid on the contract out there as he has been a main reason of the opening of this disaster. I would Love to bid on that contract. He wanted free open competition,LOL let`s everyone bid on it and SOON.

    The people who got Jim S. to begin this action will possibly be the biggest loosers.

    I know many who won`t be renewing membership with LHCMA "

    tim wrote on Jun 20, 2010 5:47 PM:

    " 2grand...Have you been following this issue the whole time?

    The BLM are paid hourly (plus pay-offs and side deals!!)
    Like this one with the LHCMA.

    This isnt about money to the BLM staff(the 3%), if it were then they would have started this "permit" stuff with the big money companies (nautical, dixie bell sea-tow boat brokers, etc)

    They started with the little guys just to see if they could get away with it.
    The results are yet to be seen.

    If the permit is for "Operating a business on BLM land and waters"
    The promotions/events have to have a permit.
    Why not the Dixie Bell, Nautical , the london Bridge resort and Boat brokers, sea tow etc? That 3% would add up to something..not the vendors!!

    Something made all this start and it wasnt clearing the beaches.

    Maybe the three big restaurants couldnt handle the competition of the vendors boats and wanted them gone.
    Jim wanted Desert Storm permit that finally got approved right after removal.Wink-Wink!
    (the food IS better on the boats)

    That makes alot more sense.
    Than to think the BLM just is doing this for the headache. They thought they could make a deal with Jim and all would be good. Now that Jim's fired-they are worried.

    You all have a brain and know how this city is run-which reason makes more since?

    All I know for sure, until the lawyer of the big orange boat shows the truth and gets them back on...I am soo gonna miss the food.

    Just funny how the city didnt care about the little guys paying 3% but now it front page. "

    tim wrote on Jun 20, 2010 5:27 PM:

    " Did you see the Front page today?
    Please Read-and you decide if these guys on council and the lhcma are competent to make our city decisions.

    A year ago-a vendor had two private meetings- one with the mayor
    and then with Jim (lhcma) and Dean Barlow at the vendors shop.
    She tried to explain to them then that If they proceeded in the quest to have the BLM do what they couldn't handle themselves and get rid of her and her business(thebigornageboat.com)-making the permit a requirement-that this would result in the whole city needing a permit and that this would crush the city and the companies around the lake. She showed them proof of what it could do if she was forced to hired an attorney over this.
    She asked them for help and explained that she did not want to do anything against her city-Havasu.

    They brushed her away -just like acouple of weeks ago she made a final attempt to ask them for help.

    Since then she retained an attorney two weeks ago, and poof!! just like she told them, the BLM retailiated.
    (which is when the BLM decided they had to finish what they started and enforce the same harassment and persecution on everyone Else.-so it didn't look like they were hand picking them and the other vendors)
    But these lhc companies at least didnt have to close for a year like they did-so stop bitching-could be worst!

    Now they are acting like this is BLM fault? Really? Like they are surprised?

    No one seemed to care that her and the other three vendors that have had all this expense and turmoil.
    I have heard her say over and over "this vendor issue is about everyone in Havasu"-now maybe you all will understand what she is talking about.

    Shame on the council and Jim!

    I am on a personal pursuit to make sure that information is heard .

    Recall staff and Fire Jim or boycott the LHCMA.

    Good Luck getting re-elected-staff.

    There are signs out already. reacalling them but I will be having some made also-so all is known.

    This is THEIR fault-Jim and Dean and council! They told the vendors that they wanted the beaches cleared because a "majority of the public wanted it"
    Well them (and their 6 friends that they are calling the majority of the public) can sit back and Thank each other-
    Enjoy the empty beach. "

    Havasu Resident wrote on Jun 20, 2010 3:39 PM:

    " I’m confused about BLM’s 450ft jurisdiction.

    So if the water level rises to 450.1 or higher they don’t have any jurisdiction?

    What about Lake Mohave at 638ft? BLM has no jurisdiction there or in Lake Mead?

    Can anyone answer? "

    lifer wrote on Jun 20, 2010 1:30 PM:

    " 2grand,
    That's probably what the BLM wants. They don't care if there are no more events. They would prefer it. The government's idea of "public" lands means the public owns it, but can't do anything with it. "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Jun 20, 2010 1:16 AM:

    " Yes why does Jim Salschieder, of the LHC Marine Assn still have a job? And why havent Barlow & Callahan resigned yet ? It is their civic duty to quit ! "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Jun 20, 2010 1:14 AM:

    " The Dixie Bell is going to be sittting in the middle of Thompson Bay on the 4th to watch the fire works selling alcohol with out an SRP nor an off site alcohol permit, I expect the BLM & ATF to cite them. "

    oldone wrote on Jun 19, 2010 11:38 PM:

    " 2grand point well taken, "

    C00LBRIDGE wrote on Jun 19, 2010 10:56 PM:

    " What they did is like saying, hey we are going to start taxing the people BUT we are gonna start with arizona only til we get geared up to handle the whole country "

    C00LBRIDGE wrote on Jun 19, 2010 10:46 PM:

    " Hey 2 grand,, Thats the beauty of it all there is no where else they can go, Those Desert Storm guys are rich "soak them" Thats what started this Jim Salschieder of the Lake Havasu Marine Assn, got his panties in a bunch over an anchor permit with the BLM (Why he still has a job is beyond me) Then Dean Barlow and Don Callahan of the LHC City Council put their nose into it and suprise suprise suprise We have a mess on our hands, To bad they arn't up for re-election this term Maybe they will do us all a favor and quit, Please Quit Dean and Don do your civic duty ! Or at least have the decency to admit you blew it and it wouldnt happen again, Also I am wondering how the Marine Assn, knew about This before the new's paper did? "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Jun 19, 2010 9:51 PM:

    " DUSAN wrote on Jun 18, 2010 2:19 PM:

    " The Axis of Evil in order #1 Jim Salschieder,(Lake Havasu Marine Assn) #2 Dean Barlow, #3 Don Callahan, #4 Dave McAtlin, #5 Lee Barnes #6 Margret Nyberg, (City Council Members) #7 Blane & Holly Hitchins(windsor beach rentals) #8 Chris Hanson(formerly of the fun center) #9 Chris Patterson(wet monkey rentals) Everyone of these people had a hand in this for their own personal agenda/gain. Thanx a lot folks! " "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Jun 19, 2010 9:49 PM:

    " Now Jim Salschieder (Lake Havasu Marine Assn) has instructed the FAA to remove the advertising airplane (the one pulling the banner) And the BLM is fighting the FAA over jurisdiction of the air space,,,,First he wanted to put medians on main street so we couldnt have Rods and Relics, Parades,Etc. Now this FIASCO,,,If we paid him to leave town we would be money ahead!
    How Much Jim? Throw out a number "

    doglover wrote on Jun 19, 2010 9:17 PM:

    " Good luck with those "public comments" to the BLM. As thousands of us have found over the years the BLM completely ignores them on other issues, such as wild horse and burro "management". Chances are they will be ignored here as well.

    Just wondering, have any "special recreation permit" fees been charged by or paid to the BLM in the last 50 years regarding this lake?
    This would include the old Havasu Classic boat races, all sailboat regattas, all boat manufacturer regattas, the jet ski finals, and more recently Desert Storm. "

    2grand wrote on Jun 19, 2010 11:57 AM:

    " [b]"the $4,000 that was spent last year would turn into $120,000. Total exposure, we could be looking at as high as $300,000 and that’s just from those 15 events.”[/b]

    Do you REALLY think those event promotors will be able and willing to fork over that much more money??? Or do you think that MAYBE there is a chance they will look elsewhere for event locations instead?? BLM is counting their eggs before they hatch. Instead of looking at "potential" increase in revenue, maybe you should be considering how much you could lose by having these event promotors go to some other lake / city that wants them. "

    all4havasu wrote on Jun 19, 2010 1:25 AM:

    " Hey, if the vendors and the food boats need a permit to use BLM waters then why doesn't the dixie bell sea tow nautical and 40 others out there?

    Last I heard ALL BUSINESSES on the lake were going to have to have a permit and pay the 3%.
    Are they stopping half way through the enforcement?
    It shouldnt have taken a year to contact the other people....they are picking and choosing.

    The advertising boat were also supposed to be stopped?

    This smells funny~~
    now the Mayor says he is having meetings with them?

    I think the BOB has been trying to tell us this all along~~
    she was right!!!!

    Boycott LHCMA until they fire Jim and Barlow. They are ruining our city!! "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Jun 18, 2010 11:20 PM:

    " P.S. Good to see you back BOB ! "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Jun 18, 2010 11:19 PM:

    " SEE what happens when you cant play nice >Jim Salschieder, Lake Havasu Marine Assn.< Lets have some Brat's and Beer, And Rhonda you don't even have a boat. Remember RE-ELECT NOBODY and DEAN & DON need to go pronto! "

    bob wrote on Jun 18, 2010 6:13 PM:

    " I was just told someone was asking for me?

    Nice to be missed.

    I am sure I will be missed when its 126 degrees out.

    I haven't come on here lately because of the last article that states I am not complying etc. -I am not even going to comment!!
    Except to say-I did not break any rules or laws.
    I have tried to comply with this insanity since last year..

    All of you can believe what you want too, I am tired of defending myself to any of you, when I have invited you all to my shop for intelligent convo and proof-many have came and learned..

    I have been harassed, slandered and lied to. All for what -to provide a great and much needed service to our town for the past 15 years?
    Make a fun attraction and make some legal money? I must be the devil!!

    No the BLM didn't and couldn't tell me to be quite.
    I have an attorney now and I am going to let him do my talking..

    All of you companies that are now interested in my issue(for your own sakes) you didn't care when it was happening to us. Now you want us to care about you? At least you didn't have to close your doors for the last year-you get to stay open for your two week permit process.
    I did tell the city and the LHCMA that this would happen if I had to get an attorney and 2 weeks after I got an attorney-BOOM!

    I will NOT be coming on here-so what ever you write in response to this will not be seen by me. You know where i am at everyday.

    Thank you for all the support everyone.

    We will be back someday.
    I have already scoped Topock and Parker.
    I will keep you all posted. BIA in Parker called and they said they would happy for us to come there, and the BLm has no jurisdiction..

    And Rhonda -REALLY YOU HAVE ALOT OF NERVE ON HERE-didnt your landlord Peter Perl (who you owe) repoe your vending boat? "

    all4Havasu wrote on Jun 18, 2010 5:31 PM:

    " The city council and the LHCMA were made aware that this was going to happen to ALL the businesses that even use the lake if they did not stop the harassment of the big orange boat.

    The lake businesses want to complain now that THEY have to pay the costs and permits- (They should be happy, at least they got to stay open for the past year) No one cared that all of us and her had to pay all these expenses. It did not make the paper then! With all of the outragous and illegal terms the BLM is making them follow!

    They have harassed them, slandered them, and made operations impossible for her and the other guy.

    She told them that if she had to get an attorney, her attorney would make everyone comply, which is how it sshould have been done. Not just them and three other vendors.
    How did they respond to her?
    They laughed at her.

    The reason why she probably isn't talking on here is because she would say
    "I told you so to Jim" from the LHCMA "and the city council", who are trying to pass this off to all of you as a surprise.

    I am sure her Lawyer, the great Mr. Ken Gregory (formally from the LHC vs.Windmill case) Has told her not to comment.
    He must have made all the comments he needed to at their meeting yesterday with the BLM. I heard all about it!!

    Boy, Mr. Lucky's has great pool tables and Mike Dobson hangs out there too!!

    Like she has said from the begining go into Signcraft-she has said she will tell you everything and prove it.
    I did and she did.
    Whether she can still talk I dont know but instead of flapping you gums GO SEE THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELVES!!

    P.S. Rhonda we all know your game-ou should probably log off. You dont have your boat anymore. "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Jun 18, 2010 5:20 PM:

    " What does Mike Henderson mean IRON THINGs OUT ? There is nothing to iron out he does not have the authority to change cost scheduals or waive fee's His job it to manage our lake and collect every red cent owed to the taxpayer,,The mayor says he is in talks with the field manager yet he told the vendors "Its federal its out of my hands not even the Govenor can do anything" The mayor also told the vendors "Im not a lawyer I dont know that its selective enforcement" But now he is acting like he has pull with the FEDERAL BLM ? Is this man fit to lead ? And Barlow & Callahan for sure need to go "

    cal/hav wrote on Jun 18, 2010 4:11 PM:

    " Karma, What goes around comes around, don't bite the hand that feeds you, don't s__t where you eat.
    The City fathers and croonies started this. This City Council and their little group is Havasus BP. "

    DUSAN wrote on Jun 18, 2010 3:40 PM:

    " Visitors Bureau President/CEO Doug Traub. “Some of these regulations could effectively shut down our ability to market ourselves. I mean, darn it, that’s our bread and butter here.” "

    DUSAN wrote on Jun 18, 2010 2:19 PM:

    " The Axis of Evil in order #1 Jim Salschieder,(Lake Havasu Marine Assn) #2 Dean Barlow, #3 Don Callahan, #4 Dave McAtlin, #5 Lee Barnes #6 Margret Nyberg, (City Council Members) #7 Blane & Holly Hitchins(windsor beach rentals) #8 Chris Hanson(formerly of the fun center) #9 Chris Patterson(wet monkey rentals) Everyone of these people had a hand in this for their own personal agenda/gain. Thanx a lot folks! "

    johnjay wrote on Jun 18, 2010 11:52 AM:

    " Where's Bob? I see the Big Orange Boat isn't commenting. Must of gave him a ultimatum, be quit or else. Bob doesn't want to end up in the BLM gulag. "

    oldone wrote on Jun 18, 2010 11:43 AM:

    " Here we go again The BLM office controls both sides of the Lake thats why the California flag is on their pole so now we have California rules and Arizonia rules and they want to go by the California fees something stinks here. And yes City Council this falls squarly on your sholders. You had a chance to have vendors on the shore but you didn't want them at the South end of Rotary park where they would not be in anyones way.
    Council you BLEW it "

    longtimelocal wrote on Jun 18, 2010 10:46 AM:

    " Seriously?????? The state just increased our sales tax by 1%. That applies to everyday purchases that can't be avoided. BLM is basically going to add a 3% tax to events on the lake, a luxury, and everyone screams that people will stop coming here????? GET REAL!! The events on the lake charge a fee to attend and they can't pay 3%? Shouldn't the people who use the lake and treat it like a toilet, throwing their trash out and not picking up after themselves, be the ones to pay BLM to collect the trash and regulate the usage? Why get upset over 3% special event fees but sit back and let the city screw over the residents by charging outrageous sewer fees and not say anything? "

    johnjay wrote on Jun 18, 2010 10:39 AM:

    " Just an FYI, historically when politicians and bureaucrats start blaming each other you know you're pretty close to the end. Maybe the BLM is tired of having 7 different police agencies on the lake all trying to police "their" way, when they feel it's their jurisdiction. Perhaps BLM realizes Havasu is on its way to collapse and is putting processes in place to deal with that event. With the city down 40% in revenue YTD and that figure climbing, I believe we are looking at an adjustment back to early 90's to mid 90's revenue levels. Problem is they didn't have the huge debt back then, I'm thinking receivership is going to be the best bet. That way at least we can start over without the council trying to be everything to everyone, Then we can role up our sleeves and start paying some of this debt back. Once debt free, businesses will return because their costs and ability to generate equity will not be hampered by the debt burdens. We might be eating Top Romen for a while but at least we can start the recovery, we have to get this burden off our back. "

    Hidija wrote on Jun 18, 2010 10:23 AM:

    " Ditto, Ditto, Ditto! All you wonderful Havasuian's previous comments are right on! And Johnjay you hit the nail on the head! Too bad we have people running our City that can't see past their "own" noses! Or should I say past the noses of their close friends! Never been what you know in this town, but Who you Know! "

    moderator wrote on Jun 18, 2010 10:11 AM:

    " tomgarven wrote on Jun 18, 2010 8:53 AM:
    " And now you know how the public feels, more government = more trouble.

    The Federal government was never created
    to solve problems. It was created to manage the defense of our country.

    So how is this bigger government we created working out for you?

    Tom G. "

    ridiculous wrote on Jun 18, 2010 8:44 AM:
    " The City opened this door when they insisted the BLM regulate businesses
    on the lake... It empowered a bunch parasitic federal bureaucrats and now
    they're going to run amuck with their newly recognized powers...

    Thanks to Havasu's short-sighted leadership, it's now going to take some
    creative lawsuits to put the BLM back in it's place - and even then the BLM
    has shown a propensity to ignore the orders issued by judges...

    All this because the city leaders wanted to regulate 3 lake businesses...
    This is just so ridiculous... "

    nomore wrote on Jun 18, 2010 8:41 AM:
    " Here we go agin folks the city fathers strike agin thay can`t leave well
    enough alone now we will lose all boating venues on the lake thanks to to a
    few havet got a clue what thay are doing.
    thank you for putting the last big spike for death of city "

    hughbert wrote on Jun 18, 2010 8:13 AM:
    " Yes Dean, The city council opened a can of worms when it invited the BLM
    to come and take care of a city problem - shoreline vendors.

    Since the council believes activity on the water is a BLM responsibility and
    not a city responsibility why does LHCPD still have boats patrol the channel
    and bay? The answer isn't public safety - its revenue generation. "

    Irishman wrote on Jun 18, 2010 8:07 AM:
    " Apparently BLM now stands for "Break Local Merchants". It seems like BLM
    is now trying to punish the city for making them do their job in reference
    to enforcing their rules on vendors. "

    johnjay wrote on Jun 18, 2010 7:22 AM:
    " "should follow the same as BLM California". Yep, Havasu is completely
    insolvent, the only thing that hasn't happened yet is the paperwork hasn't
    been filled out. Since local, state, and federal government have destroyed
    the private sector, now they're feeding on each other. The $100,000 year BLM
    employee is going to keep their job at the expense of the $100,000 year
    Havasu employee. This is exactly what happens when you run out of other
    peoples money. "

    dubld wrote on Jun 18, 2010 6:43 AM:
    " Take your Special Recreation Permit Regulations & shove ‘em where the
    water don’t flow!
    You’re going to kill tourism in Lake Havasu!

    & your link doesn't work HavasuNews. "

    oldtimer wrote on Jun 17, 2010 11:49 PM:
    " Well, here are the ramifications! How does it feel Jim? You got your way
    with the Council and now BLM is going to do their job! You opened a can of
    worms that can't be shut again! How does it feel to personally be
    responsible for the downfall of a city? " "

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