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oldone wrote on Sep 13, 2010 10:57 PM:

" I do not think that how many people come here is the whole of the picture as how much they spend to me is mmore important. Were flooded with Snowbirds every year and the Business complain about how mush they don't spend. "




resident wrote on Sep 13, 2010 3:13 PM:

" had it, you sound like sour grapes to me, we'll leave it at that....and what about the private sector selling ninja mortgages (or any gov't backed instrument i.e. student loans) then packaging them and reselling the turds (sometimes back to gov't) and, to top it off, insure these turds (i.e AIG) against losses. Oh yes the private sector = healthy private business...when gov't has to bail them out.

You no gov't people crack me up. "




Had it with Havasu wrote on Sep 13, 2010 9:42 AM:

" resident, the central theme to eveything I post here is the stellar job that Wood and McCulloch accomplished when they planned Lake Havasu City.

The original plans had space for schools and shopping and industry among everything else. Truly professional and they had their own future riding on the success. Manufacturing was big part of the plan and is a big part of the economy today. Services, be they health or marine etc. are as well. While we do have a hospital and a large contingent of health services, it is all specialized with a focus on the most profitable rather than the most comprehensive, to the point that the services provided are too narrow in scope to fulfill the needs of the community.

McCulloch marketed to snowbirds and to the marine industry and to a variety of manufacturing companies. He built the bridge as a turist attraction. He started the Havasu Classic which was the first of our almost countless destination events. Catering strictly to retired folk and boaters would be suicide. The further our city leaders stray from the vision of McCulloch and Wood, the further we are from self-sufictiency and the deeper we get in debt as we constrain the tax base. We need industry. Arizona needs to finish the pipeline from Mexico and get that refinery on line in Yuma. Lake Havasu needs to forge ahead in concert with solar panel manufacturers, not silicon based. Pursue the new technolgy. I realize that is simplistic but the point is valid.

Then again, we could just build a goofy arch across McCulloch Blvd. and pretend that will help the struggling merchants.

Motivation? Rather than individual gain how about thinking of what benefits the community.

The city just gave away a chunck of property to a company that is going under. Brilliant. At least the PED is doing more than just finding ways to help themselves.

What is really happening to the businesses in Havasu, in Arizona and the rest of the country? The federal government is in the process of awarding billions of dollars to publically traded multi-national companies so they can compete directly with me. The city, for its part... for the last ten years, has worked diligently to put me out of business to make room for their friends. That's why I moved the business out of Lake Havasu City. And out of the country next. Or sell to the multi-nationals. Who will outsource to thrid world countries.

Less government = healthy private business. That goes from city hall all the way to the US Capitol. "




tomgarven wrote on Sep 13, 2010 8:17 AM:

" “resident said [in part]: diversify what? Any industrial diversification will be located on I40, not in lhc. We have two industries, the marine community and the retirement community.”

Tom G. responds. Good points 'resident' I seem to remember us having a conversation something like this a few weeks ago, LOL.

One bad thing about these forms is that just about the time you get the conversations rolling or start making some progress towards an action plan to help the community; the article is removed from the active front page of the paper. After that, very few people ever see some of the ideas members of the community come up with.

So here is what I propose - you have my e-mail address so lets start by putting our heads together [exchanging some e-mail ideas] and see what we can come up with. Once we have some ideas put together, maybe we can forward them to the editor and convince him to run a small piece. The rest of the community might find something of value in one or two of our ideas and if they do; we can build on that.

Let's start doing something constructive with these public forms. I'm game if you are.

Tom G.

tomgarven@hotmail.com Please put RESIDENT in all CAPS on the subject line of your e-mail so it doesn't get deleted as junk mail.

LET TALK O.K. "




resident wrote on Sep 12, 2010 6:04 PM:

" fish, you are so right. This is a great place to live. Tom, diversify what? Any industrial diversification will be located on I40, not in lhc. We have two industries, the marine community and the retirement communtiy.

Instead of trying to be all things to all, we should be exceptional in these two areas. Traub is on the right path; the mayor should be defining a vision for retirement community. More healthcare = more stable jobs.

Hospitality should look at there own 70's accomodations before they start whining about the old boy network. "




fish wrote on Sep 12, 2010 9:33 AM:

" My goodness I'm surprised at the negative comments. We thought the crowd looked like they were having a fantastic time. If it wasn't the biggest ever, who cares - it was still a very good sized crowd considering todays economy. Young people, old people, families - everyone enjoying our gorgeous lake and sunshine and causing no particular ruckus. What a great place to live! "




J.kendall wrote on Sep 12, 2010 8:19 AM:

" Tom, very well said. As a 911 dispatcher (at another town) I want to thank you for pointing out how fas police/ems/fire are at our service here. When I transfer someone to CHP or any California law enforcement it's all automated . You don't have that here or in surrounding towns.

I have been here since 192, my father worked as an electrican at McCulloch Corp which was a great place to work. They should of never moved that company to Mexico. They could of changed alot of things with that company and kept up with demand of what people are buying these days keeping people employeed. I wish too we could be told everything will be normal next year. To be honest I don't see this economey turning around anytime soon. Maybe in 5 years or so. This City as got to pull it's head out of the sand and look at what attracts people to the bigger city. The mall at the north end of town is a joke who can afford to rent there? Where are all the stores we were promised? The only thing keeping Dillards here is this store is a tax write off to them. Unless they have a sale you never see cars in their parking lot. Sadly our tourism has dwindled yes due to the economey. People can't afford to gas up those big expensive boats for an hour or two of fun let alone fuel up their towing vehilces to bring those big boats to our lake, so sure they go to places closer to where they live. What is this new guy the city hired from California I think to create tourism? How many years has the old Hydro Dynamic's building sat empty? Maybe good ol Walt Disney will put a theam park in, give people jobs and tourists won't need their big boats to have fun. "




tomgarven wrote on Sep 11, 2010 5:31 PM:

" I am going to start this posting by saying I hope I'm, wrong about the economy. I also hope that someone can convince me that everything will be back to normal by next year. And yes, I wished that everyone would use their real e-mail address instead of some factitious name. It is really difficult - no; almost impossible; to accomplish anything meaningful on a public forum when people won't or can't talk to each other face to face or at least e-mail to e-mail. Also this post is not going to be about the police, firemen, city council, schools or traffic.

My family has lived in Lake Havasu City for about 12 years. It is a very clean city, the people are friendly with a few minor exceptions, shopping continues to improve or at least it did before the economy tanked, the police and fire departments respond quickly [no siting on hold for 10 minutes like some other cities], the streets are well maintained, there is little or no gang graffiti and when it is discovered it is quickly removed, teenagers seem well behaved and generally respectful and almost all store owners seem to appreciate your business. So there you have my opinion of our city – for my family it has been a wonderful place to live. It's better than Phoenix, Detroit, L.A., Boston and hundreds of other small towns I have visited.

But Havasu is no different than any other community it has it's own unique set of problems. The economy stinks and people are now looking for anyone to blame while who we probably should be blaming is ourselves. When the stock market bubble broke we could no longer borrow from our 401k's to buy stuff, if we were lucky enough to even have one. When the housing bubble burst, we could no longer borrow against our homes to buy a new boat or car. When all of that money was gone we began charging our credit cards up to the limit just so we could keep on buying stuff or maybe we just had to use the money for food. I can't think of any more bubbles to borrow against or break can you? I think our piggy banks are running close to the empty mark.

So this is not the typical recession from my perspective and I don't think it can be solved by the government throwing some money at the problem, be adding a few more regulations so it doesn't happen again or tweaking the tax code so we have $12 a week more to spend. That is not going to do it this time around and for several reasons and here is one such reason. We can not continue to borrow $400 billion dollars a year from the Chinese so we can buy oil from countries that don't like us and then burn that up in our SUV's and pickup trucks running around town carrying nothing in the bed of that truck. Almost everyone I have talked to understands we are on a crash course which can not be maintained very much longer regardless of what political party is in office. Sooner or later the Chinese are going to get fed up with us.

So how does this affect Lake Havasu? I love boating, nice hotels, cruising the channel, and having a few cold beers on the lake [with designated driver of course, LOL] as much as the next person. But based on what I see – getting back to where we were 3 years ago might not happen for another 5-10 years, if then. We need to start doing other stuff if we are going to survive not only as a country but also as a community. That from my perspective is the reality I see. If you study economics and history, you will learn that Japan is still in a recession after their economic bubble burst 10 years ago – and they did exactly the same thing we seem to be doing now.

Remember the old saying; putting all your eggs in one basket is not very wise – that applies to Lake Havasu doesn't it. Putting ALL of our efforts into encouraging the tourism industry might have been a good idea in the 80's and 90's but in todays environment we need a more diversified economy if we are going to prosper in the future – we have lots of bills to pay. Do we have the 'good old boy network' in place to make this happen? I don't know, you tell me either here on this blog, or at my real e-mail address which is: tomgarven@hotmail.com. "




Desertrat wrote on Sep 10, 2010 7:04 PM:

" To answer your question (previous) Resident - I have lived in LHC for over 20 years. I do not own a business here, do not work for the city, nor newspaper, am not law enforcement, nor married to one (all the things I have been accused of in the past) . I have lots of family and friends here, volunteer in the community and work hard like everyone else. A few years ago, I heard people saying that they do not read our online newspaper forum (this is still true today) because of all the negativity. I started reading and was shocked and appalled at all the nasty, negative, bashing of our community. I watched (without posting) for a few years and could rarely find positive comments. I started posted mine, as well as others I speak with, enjoyment and support of our community (after all, no place is ALL bad) and was attacked, ridiculed and called names. Several supportive, positive people joined in and thanked me for posting support of our community. And hence, it continues. Those who have read it for years will know that anyone who says anything nice about LHC is attacked on this forum. I believe there are more positive ways to make change within a community instead of posting nasty, hate filled, angry messages on an anonymous, no accountability newspaper forum. It is not constructive, and just makes us look bad. But like I said, very few within our community read this without recognizing that it is a small voice within our city. If someone lives here for many years and hates it that much, why stay? Life is too short and like you posted you have, why not move on? People like where they live and live where they like. Peace out. "




rivr5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2010 6:14 PM:

" HAD IT WITH HAD IT, I was stating my opinion and if you dont like it TO BAD ,PD ARE JURKS,they do little for there pay,The economy is bad all over and no one is sayinfg its not,But in your mind its ok for the PD to keep the same nasty attitude.So lets upset the few that are still coming. good plan "




Desertrat wrote on Sep 10, 2010 5:41 PM:

" Well, guess you proved a point Waste. You have been posting complaints for four years. Guess that is really productive and helps to change things. Glad to see my point proven. "




LHCwasteland wrote on Sep 10, 2010 1:10 PM:

" To Havasu Resident- Thank you thank you thank you for saying everything I've been posting on this blog for the last four years. We must know each other, I've done the same as you in this small town. I doubt that Rat has ever done anything for anyone else but himself with his simple life. Ya, he bashes everyone else that has a valid complaint but says nothing to support any of his. He's like a broken record saying the same thing over and over. It's people like him that caused Havasu to go down the tube. They never see outside of the box. They got nothing to compare to. "




Havasu Resident wrote on Sep 10, 2010 3:59 AM:

" Desertrat is bashing all you can see? You disagree with the fact there are problems in Havasu? Just because life may be good for you and you may not need to earn a living as many of us do, doesn’t mean others don’t have a legitimate point or experience. Hate to shatter your prestigious, star stuck view of the PD or Havasu but, just because you suck up to the PD doesn’t mean they are infallible. Do you really believe that anyone wanting to state a bad experience in Havasu is out to simply Bash Havasu? In My case you’re WRONG! I want nothing more for Havasu but to succeed! Sadly its people just like you that continue to think Havasu needs no change that will continue to drag Havasu down. I still have 40 or more business friends in Havasu. I have business once a week in Havasu and I am a part of city events past, present and future. I have current ads in THIS paper that supports this outlet you enjoy attacking people on. IF YOU ONLY KNEW, I have volunteered a lot of hours to help improve the community! I still have a house and family in Havasu. Many people I know that have made investments in Havasu like myself have been drug down by the city government as a whole. This is not some made up rant Desertrat, this is what many people I speak with discuss! Havasu is a beautiful place. But those that run it on the inside do it more for the elite 100 Club and greed make it a very ugly place. Sorry if the truth offends you!

Desertrat who are you anyhow Mr. anonymous? Do you have a Business here? What do you do in/for Havasu? How long have you lived in Havasu? Don’t be a hypocrite! "




havasufan wrote on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 AM:

" Then we will see you start to attack posters who complain about the sewer project also then. If, as you imply, you are only defending the city from attackers then you are not going to only attack those who complain about our fine PD as you do, as you say, everyone has a hidden agenda and yours is obvious. "




Had it with Havasu wrote on Sep 9, 2010 10:43 PM:

" Havasu Resident, I pretty much agree with everything in your comment. I do think, however, that you were misled by someone who has chosen to post with an intentionally similar name to the one I have always used. It is a tactic employed by liberals in an attempt to dilute a valid message.

Sickening really. Someone is unable to debate a subject using facts so they attempt to discredit by establishing false associations.

Figured I would share this as well. Some friends from here in Havasu went shopping over the weekend... in Bullhead. Today, I needed to buy some new laptops so I drove to Parker and bought them at WalMart. Lower sales tax. Friendlier people. "




Desertrat wrote on Sep 9, 2010 5:28 PM:

" Yes, I enjoy living here. As long as the one or two posters continue to bash and post negative comments regarding the community, I will continue to defend it. Freedom of speech works both ways. Spewing negativity on an anonymous newspaper forum without accountability is not productive problem solving, and may even add to the 'image problem.' There are more constructive ways to solve a community's problems. But, it appears that is not what the anti-LHC (and it is not just the PD that is a target-it is the council, the FD, the city, the manager, the judge, the court, etc, etc, etc) posters are after. There is always a hidden agenda, usualy political. But the city votes in the same people- so we shall see, we shall see..... "




Havasufan wrote on Sep 9, 2010 5:10 PM:

" I moved from SD 12 years ago and I still read that paper online to stay connected. Here you are again attacking posters and violating the TOS in an attempt to change the subject again away from the police brcause you say you love the city--- but you only come here to attack those who mention the PD. I have a working relationship with them and even they admit they have an image problem--- why do you work so hard to attack posters who want to talk about it? Has denial helped solve the problem? "




Desertrat wrote on Sep 9, 2010 3:43 PM:

" You are so happy in BHC, yet you come on the newspaper forum just to bash your 'previous' city. Yeah, okay. "




Havasu Resident wrote on Sep 9, 2010 11:35 AM:

" I just moved OUT of Havasu to Bullhead last month! Met with the Laughlin CVB, they said it is slower but business is still good. Stated they identified Havasu tourism is migrating north. They pointed out that they have cheaper hotel rooms, 24hr entertainment, restaurants, shows, bars and gambling, river boardwalk, many boat ramps, 5miles to Lake Mohave. You don’t see the same push hear by PD as you see in Havasu. Nice feel just to be away from that. My business was down 85%! Margaret Nyberg got re-elected screams that Havasu will never change! Hampton Inn Stated 50% occupancy only in part to family attending BROCKS funeral. Hotel prices are a joke for what you get in Havasu. Mark Nexon will continue to push sewer as Havasu goes down it!

Dan Doyle has his own agenda and the city council and city manager would rather keep in Doyle’s good graces than do what the people want as he’s at every city council meeting staring them in the face.

I HOPE EVERYONE READING UNDERSTANDS it’s all a numbers game to justify city funding. The more reports the PD makes to pad their statistics, the better opportunity to plead their case to keep their budget! Fire Dept is the same thing! The more personnel and equipment they have on scene, the easier it is to prove their budget requests. 2011 Census reports will show the population in Havasu does not justify the staff it employs!

Had it with Havasu--slowest labor day weekend I have ever seen—THEN—
Went to Vegas also over the weekend and it was so slow you wouldn't even recognize it was a holiday--THEN— I was in Laughlin too last weekend and it was soooo slow.
&
Had it with Havasu --nit picking on their (PD) lack of smiles. C'mon, really?
--THEN—Short version, people do not like how they are treated. Had it with Havasu, put down the crack pipe, your 5150! "




victoria wrote on Sep 8, 2010 6:13 PM:

" We came in from San Diego Thursday, spent the day on the lake Friday, Saturday and Monday and I must say it was fabulous! We are part time Havasu residents and really love this place. Law enforcement has made some serious mistakes in the past and yes, Havasu did lose some decent money spending visitors because of it. However, I kind of think that maybe they have lost some of those who had no respect for the law or other people too which is a good thing. The lake seemed to have a fun, happy party feel this weekend. The big orange boat was out on the water as well as a few other vendors, there were jet ski, boat and paddle board rentals available and best of all, a beautiful lake to enjoy it on. Every where we went we saw tons of people having a great time. All in all, Havasu is still a great place to boat and enjoy family, friends and fun. We feel extremely fortunate to have chosen such a wonderful place for our future full time residence. Every community has it's faults, as does Havasu but dwelling on them won't change things, envolvement will. We will do our part to help Havasu get through this recession, how about you? "




Desertrat wrote on Sep 8, 2010 4:08 PM:

" Johnjay- well said. You make valid points. Although it would save money, not sure the MCSD wants to take LHC back -lol -they appear to have their hands full now! As for vegas, I haven't been in awhile, but it is always busy. Gone are the days of cheap buffets and empty hotels. The place always has many tourist from all over. Can't really compare LHC with that! "




had it with had it with havasu wrote on Sep 8, 2010 2:34 PM:

" I was in Laughlin too last weekend and it was soooo slow.

Just roll down the window when you get hot........ "




Havasufan wrote on Sep 8, 2010 1:56 PM:

" Whatever name you use today, let's be honest. Vegas was not filled but it was not bad at all.
Laughlin, likewise, did pretty well over the holiday.
At least be honest when you demean others "




oldone wrote on Sep 7, 2010 9:54 PM:

" Ok folks now were compareing apples to whatever. Vegas has more then will ever have to attract people we all know what that is. Palm Springs is 200 miles closer to LA and has Better Hotels and more golf courses etc at least the Natucial is trying.So lets get Gambling and show bars here see what happens. "




had it with had it with havasu wrote on Sep 7, 2010 7:50 PM:

" Lets point out the obvious as to the slow down in tourism. All the foreclosures and financial problems hit this community pretty hard. A major issue was people had second homes here and just let them go to the bank cuz to them it was the easier way out.

These same people who used to come here to their 2nd home have lost that home and along with it have lost their boat. In turn why in the H E double hockey sticks would they come to a boating community on the heels of them losing their boat?? HHmmmm?

How far is Palm Springs from LA? I'm no Rand Mcnally but i think it's just a tad closer than Havasu.

But heh, just keep whining. It makes my screen name that much funner to say over and over again.

Tell your mom to roll down the window when you get hot............ "




had it with had it with havasu wrote on Sep 7, 2010 7:44 PM:

" Went to Vegas also over the weekend and it was so slow you wouldn't even recognize it was a holiday. "




had it with had it with havasu wrote on Sep 7, 2010 7:43 PM:

" Uh huh, ok, sure thing. Noooo, you never complain and whine about anything.

mmmm hmmm, sound super "




Old'n'wise wrote on Sep 7, 2010 6:10 PM:

" In what Bizarro world is Yelling or holding up a sign with the word BOOBS a crime? Do yuh think that might have something to do with a lighter than usual crowd. As much as the city fathers and police want it, tourists won't just drive through town throwing money out of their car windows. We either want visitors or we don't. Make up your mind people! "




johnjay wrote on Sep 7, 2010 5:26 PM:

" rat,
I would really like to agree with you, the area is beautiful. If I was a visitor to Havasu I would stay in my RV at Crazy Horse and store my boat at one of the inside storage lots. I would never in a million years buy a house here, you can't trust the city with your investment. The economy is killing Havasu more than anything, it just so happens that the boating industry demographic is one that was hit the hardest in the recession, that's just plain bad luck for Havasu as that was their entire economic engine. The city rolled the dice with the bonds and basically lost, they took a chance that growth would sustain the leverage and it didn't, unfortunately Havasu now has huge debt and not a lot of ways to pay for it. I don't think the police have as much to do with it other than so many agencies trying to patrol the area. It would be nice to disband the LHPD and return to the MCSD I think it would save a ton of money. Rat Havasu is dying the death of a thousand cuts, someway you have to stop the hemorrhage. "




nomore wrote on Sep 7, 2010 4:56 PM:

" Went to Vegas for weekend, NO sign of of a slowdown there took a hour to go from Fermont st back to the strip. Almost all Cali cars "




Desertrat wrote on Sep 7, 2010 3:28 PM:

" Sure- and just wondering is the same guy (R) who has been complaining on here for years because of a ticket he received years ago. So, yeah, listen to him about how people are treated. Yeah, okay. "




Had it with Havasu wrote on Sep 7, 2010 1:50 PM:

" I moved here because I loved it here.

I'm still here because I'm vested in the community.

I don't whine or complain, I point out the obvious which many deny. And unlike those who deny an issue exists, I opine solutions.

The message is clearly demonstrated in the comment posted by justwondering. We need a fundamental change in how we treat visitors and locals alike. People don't like the politics and leadership, nor the overreaching revenue generation tactics of Lake Havasu City under the guise of public safety and unnecessary infrastructure projects complete with bonds and big Big BIG loans.

Short version, people do not like how they are treated.

So they go elsewhere, where they will be treated like guests or citizens. "




desertrat wrote on Sep 7, 2010 12:33 PM:

" JM- some people are never happy! The couple of complainers on here will never be content. Sad but true. Most people are enjoying their life, economy and all, so you can only pity those who find comfort in whining on an anonymous newspaper forum. "




justwondering wrote on Sep 7, 2010 11:32 AM:

" Isn't sad. Palm Springs, Vegas, Beaches, were packed. The Fact is they are not coming to Havasu because of the Economy. Go ahead and keep believing that folks

kpsplocal2.com/Content/Top-Stories/story/Palm-Springs-Businesses-Thrive-Over-Holiday/F7377wTjc0KhpwFWOZKyKQ.cspx


Palm Springs Businesses Thrive Over Holiday WeekendFrom the top of the Aerial Tram to downtown Palm Springs, business owners said Labor Day weekend was a great kick-off to the season.

LAS VEGAS -- Labor Day weekend visitation in Las Vegas is up 2.8 percent this year over 2009, the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority said Thursday.The estimated number of visitors is 290,000 this weekend, compared with 282,000 for last year; however, the total number of rooms available increased 5 percent year over year, the LVCVA said.

Labor Day holiday travel up from last year - Americans took to the roads and skies for the Labor Day holiday in greater numbers than a year ago, thanks to low gas prices and pent-up demand for air travel, experts say. "




had it with had it with havasu wrote on Sep 7, 2010 11:00 AM:

" His argument used to be that the police harassed everyone and made too many stupid arrests now he's nit picking on their lack of smiles. C'mon, really? You base your experience in Havasu on weather or not a cop smiles at you.

Another example of the same folks being so hard up.........

Had it with RIVR5150!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEXT "




had it with had it with havasu wrote on Sep 7, 2010 10:56 AM:

" Someone please make a screen name "HAD IT WITH RIVR5150" Same posts he used last holiday. In fact i think he actual copy/pasted it from his old comments........ "




rivr5150 wrote on Sep 6, 2010 9:22 PM:

" Not much of a holiday weekend,never seen it this slow,my condo complex had no visitors,except me,I was the only one there,police coverage was huge,few arrests,cops had there normal jerky attitudes,never smile,not helpfull,yell at you for throwing a ball,WE EXPECT THAT,no traffic on the roads,made a 250 mile trip in 3hrs 20 min. ,rice rd no traffic,hwy 10 through palm springs 85 mph,dont think any other placer had much either. "




HAD IT WITH HAD IT WITH HAVASU wrote on Sep 6, 2010 4:56 PM:

" hahaha.........

Now that's some funny stuff.......... "




JM wrote on Sep 6, 2010 4:53 PM:

" Holy smokes, the same people are on here ranting how it wasn't busy at all. Even when it is busy there is no way on earth these same people would admit it.

According to Had it, it's never busy. I'll say it again. If you're so fed up and "had it with havasu" why is it you keep coming back? Why is it you can't stop talking about this town??

OMG some people are so hard up, that's it i'm changing my screen name to HAD IT WITH HAD IT WITH HAVASU. That'll be fun, and then i'll keep commenting on these articles even though it'll be a contradiction in terms............


DDDUUUHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "




oldone wrote on Sep 6, 2010 12:57 PM:

" Tim same ol song! my2 neighbors that usuly come on the holidays did not come from cal. due to money. When you work for the State and and have every Friday off with no pay, and overtime has been cut in half, you don't have that much. One of them who had a rental here lost it this year. So both boats were in the Garage this week end. I enjoyed no lines at the restraunents and the folks I saw were well behaved and was suprised most spoke English insted every other word a cuss word We had friends come visit and of course had to go up river and found not any more busy then any other weekend. Could even find a machine to play. "




tim wrote on Sep 6, 2010 11:28 AM:

" No kidding mild. No one wants to come here!!!
WAKE UP!
Why dont you "smart guys" running this town get it!!
If you didnt vote or vooted for the two that were already in-you voted against tourists
so stop complaining.

Harrassment, Raised fees, No food boats, all the eminities are not here.

Now kids going missing-come one-it sounds like a great place to NOT come. "




Had it with Havasu wrote on Sep 6, 2010 9:10 AM:

" The law enforcement agencies words:

MCSO - Very Quiet.

SBCSO - Very Quiet

LHCPD - Normal Holiday Weekend

You know, this is the slowest labor day weekend I have ever seen. And I've been here for 21 of them.

Some friends came out from San Diego for the first time ever. They were astonished at the volume of law enforcement on the water.

Restaurants and clubs in town were astonishingly slow as well. No lines. None.

Here is the question:

Is it the economy or is the cops? "




white shadow wrote on Sep 6, 2010 4:33 AM:

" Interesting enough. Though they never ask state parks about their arrests at Windsor. They seemed to be unusually busy at the ramps both Saturday and Sunday night and rangers had some out doing sobriety tests. They been known to haul away deserving DUI's and OUI's. Anything to keep the drunks from coming off the lake then driving into the city is a good thing. "

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