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Posted: Friday, June 20, 2014 12:01 am | Updated: 10:45 pm, Wed Nov 12, 2014.

Mysterious white streaks in the skies over Mohave County are the subject of a meeting next week scheduled by state Sen. Kelli Ward.

Ward says the meeting was called to respond to concerns by her constituents about the so-called chemtrails that appear in the sky after jets fly by. More commonly called contrails -- a mashup of the words "condensation trails" -- the long, thin clouds are left behind as water vapor freezes in exhaust spewed from passing jets.

The meeting will be held at 5 p.m. Wednesday at the Board of Supervisors Auditorium in the county administration building in Kingman.

Ward said she has received a lot of communication from constituents who feel they are not being listened to and aren’t confident in the air and water testing being conducted in the area. She said some of her constituents have questioned a connection between the chemtrails and a heightened level of certain minerals in their blood.

“They are concerned because many of them have had blood work, and they are concerned about our air and water, so I want ADEQ (the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality) to come out and reassure them,” Ward said.

Ward said she is confident that the air and water in Mohave County are safe and pointed to naturally occurring minerals that could account for heightened levels of mercury and other minerals in blood tests.

“I have gotten a lot of communications from people who are concerned and there has been a sense that no one has been doing anything for them to address those concerns,” she said. “I can’t do field tests on the water, but I can connect them to the people who do.”

Sherri Zendri, administrative counsel, and Beth Hager, public affairs director, of the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality will make a short presentation at the meeting and focus on the department’s lack of regulatory authority over any type of chemical spraying, according to department communications director Mark Shaffer.

He said the department for the past years has regularly received calls and emails from people in Mohave County and throughout the state that are concerned with chemtrails or other types of “geoengineering,” but has maintained its position that there is no evidence to support those claims.

“Our standard response has been that there is no credible scientific evidence about chemical spraying or geoengineering,” Shaffer said.

But you don’t have to look far to find Havasu and Mohave County residents who think there are still questions to be answered and concerns to be addressed. Small business owner Robert Hunter, 31, of Havasu is one of those residents.

“There’s a lot of conspiracy theories about chemtrails and they may or may not be true,” Hunter said. “But when it comes down to it, the government isn’t telling us everything. We have a right to know what’s going on, and there’s definitely something going on.”

Hunter said he can only speculate on what the chemtrails are being used for but pointed to a variety of sources that he said suggests the chemtrails could be related to climate control. He also said he has seen chemtrails when he has traveled outside of the state.

“I’ve read that chemtrails can change weather patterns,” Hunter said. “I do believe that there’s global warming because of nuclear testing, space shuttles, etc. So I think there is some kind of combat happening to keep temperatures normal.”

Jennifer Cramer of Havasu said she’s noticed the "chemtrails" in town for about two years.

“Every time they do chemtrailing there is some dramatic change in the weather. I noticed it this weekend and then it got very windy,” Cramer said. “I’m not a scientist and I don’t know what’s in the (chemtrails). I think we have a right to know instead of worry about it every day.”

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28 comments:

  • see you posted at 12:34 pm on Wed, Jul 2, 2014.

    see you Posts: 213

    Have you seen the commercial about the girl who found a French model on the internet? You can find any info you want on the internet.

    There aren't any chemtrails, they are all condensation trails. ALL OF THEM!

    Who are these 2000+ scientists you are so willing to believe? Who put all of their information together! Seems to me if all these scientists were correct, there would be a lot more about this on the news and not the internet.

    Do you have any research that you have done? Why are you willing to believe strangers?

     
  • Terminator Barbie posted at 9:22 pm on Sun, Jun 29, 2014.

    Terminator Barbie Posts: 5

    No one is denying that contrails exist.

    Contrails have nothing to do with "Chemtrails".

    Comparing apples & oranges doesn't excuse the IPCC 2014 AR5 which 2000+ scientist contributed to along with the CIA after a 10 year trail/study.

    It's called "solar radiation management".

    All of this information is available in public view here on the internet.

    There is no denying the facts!

     
  • see you posted at 4:30 pm on Sun, Jun 29, 2014.

    see you Posts: 213

    I love you BLAZO!

    To the person thinking naysayers are government trolls....hmmmm...I,m a teacher with a graduate degree and my private pilot's license.

    In case you don't understand that, my education and experience allow me to know what happens when jets fly. This is ridiculous. All these little towns thinking there are conspiracies.

     
  • see you posted at 4:21 pm on Sun, Jun 29, 2014.

    see you Posts: 213

    What a flipping waste of time and money. They are condensation trails, take a course on flying and get an MRI. Seriously, how boring must your life be to belief this crap?

    FEAR MONGERING be gone!

    Even if this was true, do you think a little group of people in Havasu are the whistle blowers and will stop the government?

    So sad on the limited brain power in town.

     
  • Fighter pilot posted at 9:57 am on Sun, Jun 29, 2014.

    Fighter pilot Posts: 4

    Well said, Jet Pilot.

     
  • Jet Pilot posted at 12:45 pm on Sat, Jun 28, 2014.

    Jet Pilot Posts: 1

    Seriously? Contrails are condensation from jet or piston engine exhaust. Altitudes where it occurs can be predicted, as it was in World War II so that bombers knew they were vulnerable to being easily spotted. They are as dangerous as clouds. The only chemical in some of the jet A is a product called Prist, it keeps jet fuel from freezing. Avgas has no moisture in it and doesn't freeze. Temperatures today are -24C(-11f) at 24,000' -65C(-85f) at 45,000 feet. There is no conspiracy, who would want to do it anyway. You think secrets can be kept by government employees?(Manning, Snowden) Maybe just check Wikipedia. Ps, any chemicals at those altitudes would completely disperse before falling to the earth, rendering them harmless. Do you have any idea the volume of the atmosphere?

     
  • John T posted at 11:58 am on Fri, Jun 27, 2014.

    John T Posts: 2

    The people in the area of concern have been living downwind from a coal burning power plant for most of their lives. The smokestack emissions from burning coal contain the heavy metals that are of concern in their blood. In other parts of the world the connection has been repeatedly established. Perhaps it should be looked at in this case also.

     
  • KenJams posted at 11:36 am on Thu, Jun 26, 2014.

    KenJams Posts: 1

    Chemtrails are 100% real and it's called Geoengineering.
    They have been conducting wide-scale operations since around 1998 in all NATO nations.
    The major problems with it are:
    1. We have to breath it and aluminum and barium are NOT good for you.
    2. It's killing wildlife and TREES.
    3. The Ozone layer is being hurt and UV rays are dramatically increased.
    4. It's not stopping global warming, in fact could be making it worse.

    This has got to STOP already. We are already in a mass extinction event from it.
    For more information checkout Dane's site www.GeoEngineeringWatch.org

     
  • MagnumOpus posted at 3:23 am on Thu, Jun 26, 2014.

    MagnumOpus Posts: 1

    The Civilian Chemtrails are based on a special Boron addictive that makes a hygroscopic compound of Boron that forms persistent clouds in the jet exhaust.

    It is really simple and right in view as a lubricity and biocide for JP-8 class jet fuels and in use world wide.

    You add the compound and you get Boron induced clouds or a water vapor to water aerosol emission using Boron-Nitride like effects.

    Boron compounds have long been in use for ZIP fuels that were used in long range bombers as the Boron jet fuels had 40% more energy that conventional hydrocarbon jet fuels and the range and payload for bombers could be greatly increased.

    Boron based fuels and rocket propellants were discovered in the early 1900's in Germany..

    Today, the Boron based additive to JP-8 is the heart of the Civilian Chemtrail operations worldwide. The ideas came from the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the Y-12 nuclear weapons plant in 1987

     
  • Rachel posted at 10:02 pm on Tue, Jun 24, 2014.

    Rachel Posts: 1

    Chemical trails are all over Australia and strange how they sometimes come just before the rains. Maybe, just maybe the rain brings the chemicals down to earth and into the ground. What damage and why they are doing it is the biggest question on earth. THANKS and good on you to this paper for printing it .. NOW lets see the rest of the word being this brave

     
  • Cloud Minder posted at 8:17 pm on Tue, Jun 24, 2014.

    Cloud Minder Posts: 1

    150 patents for geoengineering documented. They go back a long way.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2x6TEeknfo&feature=youtu.be

     
  • nertman posted at 4:09 pm on Tue, Jun 24, 2014.

    nertman Posts: 1

    The air quality tab of the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality web page has some specifics about chemtrails versus contrails and some dubunking theories. I would go to their home page and check it out. clink on the air quality tab when you get to the home page and you will see a link called "contrails not chemtrails" There is also an email address and phone number.

     
  • BLAZO posted at 6:59 am on Tue, Jun 24, 2014.

    BLAZO Posts: 575

    Sprawled out in my lawn chair looking at the vapor trails yesterday evening reminded me of the old "MIAMI VICE" television series. That's when the thought hit: I suppose to former cocaine users, seeing these white lines could perhaps cause them to have a drug relapse? Good thing Senator Ward is on top of things here. Here's a Blazo tip: I find that wearing a good pair of sunglasses helps blot out some of the white. Not a cheap pair of sunglasses but good ones that are polarized!

     
  • Truthwillprevail posted at 8:11 pm on Mon, Jun 23, 2014.

    Truthwillprevail Posts: 1

    I'm wondering how many of the naysayers on here are government trolls. who are paid to distribute propaganda and make people believe that their eyes are lying to them, and how many are just genuinely stupid. It's really simple, contrails are formed at very high altitudes when water vapor created from the combustion of jet fuel freezes and forms crystals, which refract the light, and make the trail visible. A normal contrail dissipates roughly as quickly as it forms. What we are seeing in our sky is metal oxide particulates that are sub micron in size. They dissipate very slowly, and spread out to join other chemtrails to form a pseudo cloud cover. If you hold your hand up to block the sun on what appears to be a blue sky day, you will see a halo of light that emanates form the particles in the sky. For some reason, they are hiding this from us and running a propaganda campaign to discredit anybody who tries to bring attention to it.

     
  • redbridge posted at 5:33 pm on Mon, Jun 23, 2014.

    redbridge Posts: 69

    Chem trails, NO Vapor trails YES, Hot jet gases hitting cold air at 30, 40, 50,000 feet causes these VAPOR TRAILS, Pull 3-4 Gs in a sharp turn in a jet fighter and you will get the same effect from the wing tips, If my mind serves me correct some one or a group in Arizona was trying to sue the aircraft companys TWA, United ect for cluttering up the clear blue skys over Arizona with vapor trails I think in the 1960's when Jets were becoming popular in commercial flights. They are here to stay people, live with it.[beam]

     
  • Terminator Barbie posted at 11:11 am on Mon, Jun 23, 2014.

    Terminator Barbie Posts: 5

    Here's a tip towards a solution and what we have been doing here in Shasta County, CA.

    There is a local company that makes a UAV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle) with a 30 mile radius, Lift Off UAV's. We found the proper material to gather samples with, it's called Aerogel aka Liquid Smoke, and the tests can be done via Basic Labs in Redding CA at a cost of #20.00 per test.

    We went to our Board of Supervisors during recorded public meetings to ask them to help us by being involved. They have so far refused. We don't need their help, we have international attention and cooperation, we can achieve this ourselves.

    On July 15th the experts are coming to Shasta County to help us address our Board of Directors on this issue, Rosalind Peterson and Dane Wigington will be present.

    If our political officials want to continue to lie, hide, and deny these programs exists and are contaminating our air, water, and soil than we will have to prove it to them... And we are!

    What political officials need to be aware of is that when you go on camera, or are quoted as saying "there's no evidence" your showing the masses you have no idea what you are talking about. We don't just believe our own test, facts/evidence, we are using the Global Governments data on it. The IPCC AR5 and the American Meteorological Societies Symposiums/papers on the subject

    The leaders of the USA have mud on their faces as a result of other countries governments releasing the data... Wake Up Political leaders.... fast! We The People need you representation, or we need to replace with you with someone who is capable of representing us properly.

     
  • Fighter pilot posted at 9:37 am on Mon, Jun 23, 2014.

    Fighter pilot Posts: 4

    Now it can be told: These vapor trails are caused by the Beet :People who live on the back side of Earth's moon.

     
  • infowarrior1 posted at 4:54 pm on Sun, Jun 22, 2014.

    infowarrior1 Posts: 1

    It's happening all over. Here in Windsor, Ontario Canada, we started a facebook page called Windsor Skywatch. I post videos that I uploaded to my soulflymosthigh youtube channel. Regardless of what is in the trails, the fact that we barely have blue skies anymore is not up for debate. On an almost daily basis, the planes have been worse than ever over the last 2 years. I confronted a guy from environment Canada and asked why are there huge X's in the sky and why do the trails expand and cover the sky and sun. He told me it was the moisture but couldn't explain why some planes' trails at the same altitude, disappear.

     
  • DoktorZoom posted at 1:19 pm on Sun, Jun 22, 2014.

    DoktorZoom Posts: 1

    Thank goodness this is being taken seriously. Next, perhaps Sen. Ward will explain what she intends to do to protect us from Bigfoot, the Chupacabra, and the Boogeyman.

    Correction to your photo caption "Chemtrails are shown above Lake Havasu City" -- since there is no such thing as chemtrails, may I suggest "contrails," which are real things. You could look it up.

     
  • listened posted at 11:27 am on Sun, Jun 22, 2014.

    listened Posts: 1

    you know, guys, it might actually be your imperative to actually explain what the trails behind airplanes are. They're water vapor. Caused when the natural exhaust of an airplanes engine, which is hot, hits the extremely cold air up there and instantly forms vapor. You can look up this phenomenon from last winter when some people on Youtube threw pots of boiling water into the frigid air in Chicago and it made a cloud. Same concept.

     
  • Terminator Barbie posted at 3:12 pm on Sat, Jun 21, 2014.

    Terminator Barbie Posts: 5

    I hope someone has provided the Senator with a copy of the 2014 IPCC AR5 report, and links to the SRMGI web site "Solar Radiation Management Government Initiative" on Geoengineering the climate. As well as taking a look at the test results available via geoengineeringwatch.org

    A group of us "Uniting For Our Planet" presented this evidence to the Shasta County Board of Supervisors over the past 2 months. On July 15th we will be speaking before them again, but this time we are bringing in the experts, even Rosalind Petterson will be present.

    Having local citizens show up for these meetings is "vital". Our political officials look to the size of the audience to determine whether or not they should get involved in a particular matter. If she looks out and sees a huge crowd of people she will go to work for you on this issue.

    This is something that has to matter to every single breathing human being, no one is immune, no air filter can adequately protect you from this. The Nano particulates being used in the SRM program are causing serious health issues. Many scientist are now stating they believe there is a connection between what is being prayed into our atmosphere and morgellons disease.

    This is serious!

     
  • Curious posted at 1:12 pm on Sat, Jun 21, 2014.

    Curious Posts: 1

    Have anyone heard this phone recording with Douglas Rowland from NASA about the different types of chemtrail being sprayed to study the wind and the electric current? It is posted on Youtube titled "(Shocking) NASA official admits chem-trails are real!!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDvQT5sfcJM&feature=share. You can contact Doug at douglas.e.rowland@nasa.gov to learn more about it.

     
  • chrisevans2645 posted at 12:37 pm on Sat, Jun 21, 2014.

    chrisevans2645 Posts: 8

    While I certainly don't trust the government I find it difficult to believe that they're spraying chemicals from airplanes. Between those in charge of the operation, those that would have to manufacture the vast quantities of whatever chemical it supposedly is, the mechanics that work on the plane, the engineers that designed the plane, the ground crew that fills the plane, the pilots, and miscellaneous other people that would have to be in on it I think we would have more evidence by now. Someone would have been brave enough, dumb enough, or smart enough to come forward with it, especially if it was something harmful.

     
  • Fighter pilot posted at 6:31 am on Sat, Jun 21, 2014.

    Fighter pilot Posts: 4

    How life's little pressures build up and push us beyond the fringe. We all know that those contrails in the sky are not frozen vapor exiting jet engines of military and civilian aircraft flying at high altitude. They are, instead, the dastardly work of the Beet People who live on the back side of our moon. Red alert! Red alert!

     
  • mccormas posted at 11:38 pm on Fri, Jun 20, 2014.

    mccormas Posts: 1

    Is this a joke?

     
  • 38897 posted at 11:18 pm on Fri, Jun 20, 2014.

    38897 Posts: 2

    I have seen Chemtrails here since the early 1970's. I don't believe it is some sort of conspiracy. I have seen chemtrails also in another country, so unless it is a worldwide conspiracy it is just exactly what they say! Too many people with too much time on their hands.

     
  • Time To Speak posted at 8:18 pm on Fri, Jun 20, 2014.

    Time To Speak Posts: 193

    I guess some admin DIDNT like my post this am! SO much for freedom of speech! and yes Area 51 has space people stored also!

    so lets try a simpler version!:
    "Contrails are short for "condensation trails") or vapor trails are long, thin artificial (man-made) clouds that sometimes form behind aircraft. Their formation is most often triggered by the water vapor in the exhaust of aircraft engines, but can also be triggered by the changes in air pressure in wingtip vortices or in the air over the entire wing surface.[1] Like all clouds, contrails are made of water, in the form of a suspension of billions of liquid droplets or ice crystals.

    Depending on the temperature and humidity at the altitude the contrail forms, they may be visible for only a few seconds or minutes, or may persist for hours and spread to be several miles wide. The resulting cloud forms may resemble cirrus, cirrocumulus, or cirrostratus, and are sometimes called cirrus aviaticus. Persistent spreading contrails are thought by some, without overwhelming scientific proof, to have a significant effect on global climate."

     
  • Cool Bridge posted at 4:51 am on Fri, Jun 20, 2014.

    Cool Bridge Posts: 36

    This is the result of replacing science in schools with the Alex Jones show. My condolences to state Senator Ward for having to do this foolishness. Where are the ones complaining about wasting tax dollars? Most likely at the meeting. On the bright side Kelli you can lead these fools anywhere. Congrats on your reelection.

     

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