Editor: Apparently, there are folks in this city who do not think being a member of my political party is a good thing. I wrote the following paragraphs some time ago for a different purpose, but they describe some of the reasons why I chose to be a Democrat in, of all places, Mohave County.

The Preamble to the Constitution lists six activities that the constitution should encourage or enable. One of those listed activities is to promote the general welfare. It is my belief that Democrats have done and can do more to promote the true general welfare of the country than any other political party or movement. How Democrats have moved us forward in this area in the past is legend. A partial list would surely include: rural electrification, development of the infrastructure at our national parks and monuments, the scientific advances inherent in the space program, freedom of access for all our citizens. There are many others including the popular programs of Social Security and Medicare.

On a personal level, I received financial assistance under the GI Bill which allowed me to return to college after my USAF service. The education I thereby obtained allowed me and my family to purchase our first home, again using a GI Bill benefit. That was many years and several houses ago. I have had a good and prosperous life. Part of that prosperity is due to the investment my country chose to make in me. The other side of that coin is that I have paid thousands upon thousands more dollars in income and property taxes than I would have without the benefits of that education and home ownership. I personally think it has been money well spent on both ends. Considering the options, I’ll go with the party most likely to invest in America.

Dave Tunnell

Lake Havasu City

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HwyRovr

“VA172 Dec 4, 2019 8:25pm - You are really starving for love aren't you. Your BS overwhelms me.”

'?" - As long as I know you all love me, as proven by your comment 0n 11/27/2019, “You haven't mentioned our love for you lately,” I will be humbled by your attention and knowing that you are “overwhelmed” by me truly humbles me.

simon1dog

Howdy can be proud of one thing. He's driven more people away from commenting on this forum than anyone. I've watched over the years as he insulted writers just for the sake of being hateful. Most of them never came back after he slammed them for being stupid, ignorant, idiots. A few of us are thick-skinned and can take the man's drool. HG is close behind Howdy taking second place. I assume he gets up on the wrong side of the bed every morning. The old saying that some folks tear others down to make themselves feel big holds true with those two. Hopefully, Howdy gets a 1st place trophy at the end of the year. I bet he'd beam with pride over his accomplishment.

HavasuGuy

You are no better, simon. You drive people away too!

VA172

Very true. Civil conversations are not possible while Rovr has the ability to comment. There will be a time in the future when he won't be able to.

VA172

Rovr's nastiness is a sign of desperation.

HwyRovr

"HwyRovr" - WOW! Two at a time! I am so humbled that your obsession with me knows no bounds. And to think I felt I could not be more honored than when you said, "11/27/2019 You haven't mentioned our love for you lately." The love that flows from you and Si...oops, can't mention him, JVW and the others is so heartwarming it makes me literally beam with pride. However, I should point out that your mention of "civil conversations" cannot exist when all of you refuse to actually respond to the factual comments I post. I almost fear you are the Comrade Dopesky's the intelligence communities are warning us about - you know, sad, pathetic losers on the payroll of the Russians to muck about - yet again - in our nation's elections under the guidance of the scummy loser presently stinking up our White House. Please tell me I am wrong and that your collective love for me is genuine?

VA172

You are really starving for love aren't you. Your BS overwhelms me.

JVW

#1Simon. Spot on [thumbup][thumbup]

HwyRovr

"simon1dog" - learn to read.

Proudindependent

I didn't benefit from a GI bill but did benefit from having a father who was a union electrician. Because he belonged to the Union he was able to make a fair wage that allowed him to provide for 5 kids, help us through college and now we all pay more in taxes. That would not have been possible under the right to work state we have here in Az supported by the Republicans. All you conservatives should look in the mirror and understand you now have become the party of Trump. You support his ethics and morals and believe he represents what this country beliefs and moral fabricate should be. I do not.

VA172

Why do you assume all conservatives like Trump. There are many of us that don't care for him that much. We care far less for the liberals and their policies and politics.

HwyRovr

You’re always so cute with your broad-based and silly statements, like this one, “We care far less for the liberals and their policies and politics.” I would like for you to carefully examine the following and then tell us which of the liberal polices, ideas or concepts you disagree with – be precise in your dislike.

From Wikipedia, “Liberalism is a political philosophy centered on what many see as the unalienable rights of the individual. The fundamental liberal ideals of freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion for all belief systems and the separation of church and state, right to due process and equality under the law are widely accepted as a common foundation across the spectrum of liberal thought. Modern liberalism includes issues such as same-sex marriage, reproductive and other women's rights, voting rights for all adult citizens, civil rights, environmental justice and government protection of freedom from want. National social services such as equal education opportunities, access to health care and transportation infrastructure are intended to meet the responsibility to promote the general welfare of all citizens as established by the Constitution.”

simon1dog

Dave, you shouldn't feel bad about making mistakes. There are three other Democrats in town just like you and they can often be found on this forum. Perhaps you guys and one gal could band together and form a social group? Should you ever get tired of being on a losing team, come on over to the other side. The water is much more temped. Republican folk are definitely less hateful. You're welcome anytime!

Mr Lemons

Democrats/Socialists, as a group, are definitely hateful. [thumbup]

HwyRovr

Here’s a look at some of the draft-dodging scum’s most offensive and outrageous comments over the years and that's just from your "leader":

"You know, it doesn't really matter what [the media] write as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of ass."

“I will build a great wall – and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me – and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our Southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words."

“Our great African-American president hasn’t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore.”

“All of the women on 'The Apprentice' flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected."

“I have never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke."

“You’re disgusting” – said to a female lawyer during a court case after she asked for a break to pump breast milk for her 3-month-old daughter.

“Ariana Huffington is unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man. He made a good decision."

“26,000 unreported sexual assults [sic] in the military — only 238 convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together?"

“I would never buy Ivana any decent jewels or pictures. Why give her negotiable assets?"

“The most difficult aspect of the prenuptial agreement is informing your future wife (or husband): I love you very much, but just in case things don’t work out, this is what you will get in the divorce. There are basically three types of women and reactions. One is the good woman who very much loves her future husband, solely for himself, but refuses to sign the agreement on principle. I fully understand this, but the man should take a pass anyway and find someone else. The other is the calculating woman who refuses to sign the prenuptial agreement because she is expecting to take advantage of the poor, unsuspecting sucker she’s got in her grasp. There is also the woman who will openly and quickly sign a prenuptial agreement in order to make a quick hit and take the money given to her."

“[Angelina Jolie’s] been with so many guys she makes me look like a baby... And, I just don’t even find her attractive."

“Look at that face!” said of former Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina. “Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?!"

“Women have one of the great acts of all time. The smart ones act very feminine and needy, but inside they are real killers. The person who came up with the expression ‘the weaker sex’ was either very naive or had to be kidding. I have seen women manipulate men with just a twitch of their eye — or perhaps another body part."

“While @BetteMidler is an extremely unattractive woman, I refuse to say that because I always insist on being politically correct."

"Cher is somewhat of a loser. She's lonely. She's unhappy. She's very miserable."

"Love him or hate him, Donald Trump is a man who is certain about what he wants and sets out to get it, no holds barred," Trump said about himself one time. "Women find his power almost as much of a turn-on as his money."

“You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. In my opinion, she was off base,” Trump said of Fox News’ Megyn Kelly.

“He’s not a war hero,” said of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

“I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I’m more honest and my women are more beautiful."

"My IQ is one of the highest — and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure; it's not your fault."

"Many people walked out of Madonna’s concert when she told them to vote for Obama. Years ago I walked out because the concert was terrible."

"Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life,” Trump said with regard to his plan to ban Muslims from entering the U.S.

HwyRovr

"temped?"

Roco

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Mr Lemons

The writers of the constitution understood the “general welfare” to mean the good of all citizens, not an open-ended mandate for Congress. The only good that applies to ALL citizens is freedom, and government’s proper role is the protection of that freedom.

That was the meaning intended by the Founders.

"I’ll go with the party most likely to invest in America."

The key word in your opinion piece is "invest." To Democrats/Socialists, invest means take money (taxes) from one person and give it to another. Of course, it is the government (elected and unelected) that will decide where to invest. A conservative would counter that the individual should keep as much of their money as possible and they would invest their money as they see fit.

HwyRovr

Wow, look at you channeling the Founding Fathers – “That was the meaning intended by the Founders.” How did you do that? Magic crystals, séance, the Great Pumpkin?

And to be accurate Rebuliscums consider invest to mean huge tax breaks for the wealthiest members of our nation (“take money from one person and give it to another,” I believe you said), cutting Social Security, Medicare and every other safety net designed to protect the disadvantaged.

tomgarven

Hi Dave: I have also benefited from many government programs over the years as do most Americans. But I do try to keep in mind that we are currently about $23 trillion dollars in debt. Regardless of which political party you might like to support We-The-People need to make sure our representatives address this growing problem. We will soon be at a point where the government will be unable to even pay the interest on this debt - then WHAT?

I have voted for both a Democrat and a Republican in the past. It all depends on who I believe will do the best job representing We-The-People. You see it is not so much about the political party you chose to support but rather which individual[s] you believed best represents your belief structure.

So yes I voted for someone from both political parties in the past. However, I am currently studying every candidate running for office. The way I look at it; political parties CAN'T even vote. Only We-The-People get to vote so to me political parties are not very relevant to our political system. They are to me only a token representation of what each party would LIKE to accomplish. Most people forget that political parties don't write and approve our proposed laws. Those functions are reserved for members of Congress and our President.

There will always be people who vote the party line however I wished they wouldn't. My recommendation is we try to figure out which individuals will work for the American people and which ones are just in office to get lobbyist money and retire after a few years.

Enjoy our free republic since it is the most valuable possession We-The-People own. Protect it whenever you can from the government elites who want a one world government.

HwyRovr

Very well said, Dave. I also benefited from the GI Bill. My Dad summed it for me years ago, "No working man can ever be a Republican."

HavasuGuy

You're dad was wrong, there are ignorant working people that are republican - not all of them, just the really ignorant ones...

HwyRovr

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