Editor: I recently heard a liberal broadcaster bemoaning police violence. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. Yeah, them coppers are nasty all right. I see them jump out of their black and whites and throw skateboards through business windows, then loot the store. They like to pull over black men, shoot them and then choke them to death and set their cars on fire. Come on, we’ve all seen it.

Is there no one of stature and influence out there with the guts to tell the truth? This nation’s violence problem is black criminals in blue cities, especially the crime of resisting arrest. Look at the statistics. But whenever anyone does mention the numbers of black on black crime, including fatal shootings, there is a sudden hush in the room. You can’t say that. That might upset or anger the Left.

Are we all scared of the truth, does no one care anymore or are we being governed by fools? In any case, our country is in serious trouble.

Ed Schweizer

Lake Havasu City

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HavasuGuy

Let's see, tRUMP when talking about the white supremacists and Nazis in Charlottesville, "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

tRUMP talking about the Black Lives Matter movement, "Black Lives Matter is a "symbol of hate".

Yeah, he's not a racist...

Not ALL tRUMPers are racist BUT, ALL racists are tRUMP supporters, just read the next guy's comment below this post to see...

Mr Lemons

HavasuGuy? Wow you're going back to July to monitor and follow up? What a Nimrod. After so many replies you can no longer reply to a reply. Get it? No one agrees with you, except for those blind to the truth, that President Trump supports Nazis and White supremacists. First they have no numbers in their group(s). Where are they? I never see them. They never make the news unless they're needed to support some leftist narrative. What I do see, at least for 70+ days, are the Orwellian named Antifa leftists rioting and burning buildings in Portland, Seattle, LA, and other major cities. BLM "protesters" in Chicago liberating goods (stealing in lieu of reparations according to BLM) from Nordstroms based on a false rumor. It goes on and on. And where is Biden and the Democrats to condemn this behavior? They're nowhere to be found. They (Democrats) allow it to continue. Democrats condone and approve. Democrats support them with bail money. Democrats support them with lawyers. Democrats criticized Federal officers when they were protecting Federal employees and buildings. You're all such hypocrites.

Davel2

See below to understand the full conversation. I wanted to post it where the most would see it.

VA172 Jul 5, 2020 9:25am

"The WWII veteran who's parents were immigrants and so loved this country he could not wait to enlist. 2 Purple Hearts, A Bronze Star, A Silver Star, Refused the Medal of Honor unless all the men in his platoon received it. 10 Battle Stars - 4 for amphibious landings, A French braid and even helped liberate a Nazi Concentration Camp... All documented and one hell of a solider.

I would like to see the documented proof."

VA172... I will entertain your question. Although, with all that I wrote, it's so typical of you to miss the real message. So I will leave you with this... My father was a Commander at the local VFW. As a kid, I would sometimes go to the VFW with him. I was there one day when they were preparing for a Memorial Day Parade. There were others there wearing their honors on their uniforms. Being so proud of my Dad, I asked him why he doesn't wear all his. His reply was, it would seem like bragging and I don't want to diminish in anyway the important role that all these men played during the war. I never forgot that, as it was yet another life lesson in just a few short words. When he died, and hard to believe but very true, it was on Veterans Day. He was in law enforcement for 35 years and highly respected. The funeral was huge and while

proud that so many would honor him, it was overwhelming for me during that moment of personal grief. There was actually a debate as to who would do the rifle salute, law enforcement or the military. When we requested the Veteran's Memorial Plaque for his grave site, even the person we spoke with remarked about his impressive military record. Obviously VA172, I'm not going to post the documentation to satisfy your disbelief, but I will tell you this. As a kid growing up there was never a national holiday when he didn't proudly display the flag from the front porch. There was never a time when the colors passed that he did not put his hand over his heart during a parade he was not participating in. I was raised to be patriotic, but not to allow myself to be blind to reality or blindly led. My Dad also was Democrat, but could also fine compromise with Republicans when needed. That is of course at a time when Republicans were open to compromise. He was a believer in unions, a believer in social programs to help others do as well as himself, a believer in people, no matter the color of their

skin or their religion. I witnessed his personal beliefs in action countless times and absorbed and analyzed every single moment. So when I read comments from you and others who seem to believe you are the real and only Americans and I contrast it with your obvious lack of objectivity and empathy, it sickens me to my core. When I observe your support of a President who preaches division between Americans with his hate speak, it makes want to vomit. When I hear him define what a true American should believe and observe people like you in agreement with it, it makes me lose all respect for you. Being an American President means being all inclusive. I'm being as kind as I can be to you as my Dad also taught me to have patience, although that is a lesson I still struggle with. So when I read comments from you, Deaton, "Your" welcome, Cooldan, Mr Lemons, and others, I find it repulsive to know that your misguided and ignorant vote counts as much as mine, but that's America and I support everyone having the right to vote. Should I respect your freedom of speech? My Dad would think I should, but than again he is not living in the time of Trump where outspoken

hatred of people who disagree with you is unprecedented and encouraged by a US President. He is not living in a time when we ignore the struggles of others and seek and defend it with excuses that have no weight. One last thing. He also taught me to never be a quitter, but after months of being on here and observing that those with your mindset refuse to give up a single inch of ground even when presented with some very persuasive arguments, I can't help but see it as a lost cause. My only regret is that I am leaving BB, HavasuGuy, Objective Dialectic, and others without additional support.

For that I apologize to them. Now let me leave and may we never darken each other's doorstep again.

HavasuGuy

Davel2 - Our family Thanks your's for their service to our great nation. I look forward to hearing from you again in the future! Stay safe my friend!

Davel2

[thumbup][thumbup] Same back HavasuGuy. People like you give me hope for

the future.

NorthLong

"For that I apologize to them. Now let me leave and may we never darken each other's doorstep again."

I really don't believe one darn word of your long comment, especially your last sentence. You were going to leave us several days ago, and here you are still hanging around.

deaton

He’s certainly not to be believed, especially with that fairy tale! Does your “handle” denote service in the “FDR”? [thumbup][beam] Deaton

NorthLong

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup]

BigBob

What is it with you newbies and your really ignorant statements? Of course we have seen it here for a long time as the usual suspects hate actual veterans.

deaton

Right on time rovR**BB, spreading hate and discontent as usual. By the way what is a "newbie"? Why are you picking on them? Type away BigBob, I'm sure you got new stuff from your "Stack-O-Lies" to C & P here. Plus you need to compare the President with "Adolph", That hasn't been done today? Looks as if Davel2 couldn't hack it any more? I'm going to miss the Twit. [thumbup][love] Deaton

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Davel2

Deaton you got some crust! Audie Murphy was in the same 3rd Infantry Division as my father! While Audie has a very distinguished military record, do you think he fought the war alone? My father was a Sargent and his commanding officer wanted to put him in for the MOH, but my father simple didn't want it unless all his men received it. The idea stopped right there. Most those guys didn't care about medals they just wanted to get home to their families. I talked and listened to many WWII vets while growing up. What is wrong with you???? I shared a personal and true story about my family to make a point and this what I get. You call me a liar! It's beyond pathetic! What is the problem? Were you the cook behind enemy lines in Vietnam or Korea? I still would not disrespect your service to your country. I'm off here! Coming back and defending the honor of a man who has been dead for 35 years to someone like you has got to be the definition of insanity!

deaton

“(I’ve) got some crust!” You bet I do, Twit! Especially when exposing “Phonies” like you! Quote: “My father was a Sargent and his commanding officer wanted to put him in for the MOH, but my father simple didn't want it unless all his men received it.” YEAH RIGHT! You’re right I don’t know your Father, if he served I salute him and his comrades! If you’re Father had done all of this “2 Purple Hearts, A Bronze Star, A Silver Star, Refused the Medal of Honor unless all the men in his platoon received it. 10 Battle Stars - 4 for amphibious landings, A French braid and even helped liberate a Nazi Concentration Camp...” You could bet you butt I would have heard about him or read about him. You know why Twit, because I know what those military decorations mean and the gallantry and bravery it takes to be awarded them. You wouldn’t know a bronze star from a cigar band. If you’re my age then you were subject to the selective service draft. How did you manage to dodge the draft? Oh and those “cooks” they suffered too. My service was in the crew of an American Submarine, our mission in the “Nam” was hunting down Sponge Bob Square Pants as your pal rovR** likes to imagine. I’ll take bone spurs over a wimp like you any day, Twit! As for my law enforcement career, I did 27 years and was honorably retired with a stack of commendations. So take a hike Twit, see you around?

IcePick

Davel2. You have to have numbers as we have cleared up days ago. Heres numbers convince us there wrong...

https://youtu.be/XPkkjvANE10

Davel2

JVW... I understand what you are saying, but Ed's letter is confusing two different topics that being crime versus protest over Police misconduct. Not to mention he did it with some serious racial overtones. If you knew me in real life you would know that I see criminals as non-human and would likely make you look like a Priest in comparison to my attitude about how to deal with it. I know what ethnic groups have higher crime rate statistics, but still I remain very color-blind when it comes to serious crimes. However, when I am talking about criminals I am talking about rape, murder, human trafficking, not some overly zealous idiot kid who throws a skateboard through the window of a parked police cruiser. This kid may think he is making a social statement, but doesn't realize that when he does this he is drawing attention away from the real issue and allowing people like Ed to call foul and change the subject. Bring into it politics, as he did, and now you have the same scenario as with Covid-19 and the problem gets worse instead of better. I appreciate you sharing the link and I watched it. I'm not questioning the portion of his video that provides crime statistics. but it's the perfect example of what I am talking about where its presented at a time to draw attention way from the real issue that got us here and that's Police using deadly force where it's not warranted in any way.

“Your”welcome

Devil2, unfortunately with bad behavior brings a man who deals with it!!! Do the right thing and deal with it!

Davel2

The first version of my comment was deleted, so this is the kinder gentler version.

Ed Schweizer... I may not be the one of stature and influence you were hoping

for, but I will be glad to tell you the truth. I'm not sure what "Blue Cities" has to do

with this other than for you do take a shot at the "Left." Actually most all cities are Blue

as their filled with diversity and with that comes a diverse way of thinking. This is in sharp contrast to Havasu where everyone just votes for anybody with a "R" after their name. Somehow you think pointing to Black on Black crime makes the issue of misconduct by the Police more acceptable and palatable to your taste and obviously the taste of others. The issue of this misconduct is what got us here and what needs to be addressed, but of course its not the narrative that the "Right" wants to put out there

as they want you focused on the bad actors at these protest. Your statistics have no bearing on the issue, other then to perhaps support the fact that where there is more poverty there is more crime. Of course you will think poverty is not an excuse for crime, but that is just ignoring the reality. However, this is being addressed by moving funds from Police Budgets to address the root cause of both poverty and crime as well as how the Police approach it when interacting with those they detain. A move that likely makes you uncomfortable because you like having that big powerful blue line between you and them. Them being Americans of color that are entitled to the same protections of the law as yourself. I would be embarrassed to make a statement like the nation's violence crime problems are black criminals as if to deny there exist white violent crime. Again, this is Havasu and shame is in short supply especially with such a large audience that wants to believe your narrative. Your question asking if we are being governed by fools is fair. I would say yes, since Trump has done nothing but antagonize the issue of Police misconduct with his mouth and behaviors. The most blatant example was shooting rubber bullets and teargas at peaceful protestors so he could hold up a bible. A fact often overlooked by those of you who claim to be all about the constitution. Of course it is an election year and he wants to deliver what his base wants to hear and see. In closing Ed, I would say you don't have to worry about "Black Lives Matter" being painted in big yellow letters on your driveway. You're safe from the influence of those "Blue Cities" as it will likely take sometime to inject empathy and objectivity into the greater part of this local population.

This is Davel2 signing off!

HavasuGuy

Davel2 - [thumbup][thumbup][thumbup] Attitudes like Ed's haven't stopped the violence and won't stop it now or in the future. As long as Americans ignore the issues it will keep coming back, stronger and harder.

Fortunately it looks like this time around some major changes are going to happen, we're already seeing it. America is strong and it will get stronger as we push forward for everyone.

If you go back and look at the resistance to change during the earlier part of the American Revolution you can see early settlers who spoke out, and in some instances betrayed, the Americans that fought for our Independence.

Comfort with the status quo and fear of change are a human trait, we will overcome - America has before.

Happy 4th of July!

“Your”welcome

Oh look someone is “Trolling” mr. 👍👍👍!!! Ed’s attitude doesn’t need the police to be called to protect others unless that person might be attempting to inflict harm on him!!

Davel2

[thumbup][thumbup] HavsuGuy... We will overcome... Enjoy your 4th too!

“Your”welcome

“Davel2” the whole “BLM movement” whether good people are involved with peaceful protesting or not is based on Criminal activity and those being okay with it unless a death by a cop is involved! They can kill , rob and beat others Blind , but when an unfortunate Situation happens to a criminal by a cop look what happens! There are millions of positive interactions with good policing but who cares right! I don’t know if you paid attention but the United States just had a black president! Stop with the excuses it’s getting old!

HavasuGuy

Let's see, tRUMP when talking about the white supremacists and Nazis in Charlottesville, "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

tRUMP talking about the Black Lives Matter movement, "Black Lives Matter is a "symbol of hate".

Yeah, he's not a racist...

“Your”welcome

This is it? 👍👍👍! Lol! No hate but what you and you’re people put on it!! Open you’re eyes!! Black lives won’t matter until others do!! Statistics show they take more lives!!

Mr Lemons

HG - You continue to lie whenever you repeat, just as Joe Biden did, this fragment of a quote.

When you do this, you can no longer be trusted to speak the truth. Here's what President Trump also said at the same press conference:

"So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

"Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."

https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/

deaton

Mr. L, lying is HavasuGuy’s [batman] “stock in trade”! Like a parrot, an intelligent bird, you can train it to “speak”. However, it has no comprehension of the words it speaks? It’s just replicating a sound it has heard. In my opinion, HG [batman] has heard many “sounds” repeated by BigBob/rovR**many times, he’s simply replicating them. [thumbdown][huh] Deaton.......... Hooray, for “T-blocker” [tongue]

HavasuGuy

Lemons - Here's a link to tRUMP's interview, he said it and you can't excuse away the fact that he defended the white supremacists and Nazis;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs

Here's a link to his interview, 48 hours later when he tried to walk back his support of the white supremacists and Nazis:

https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/

You can make all the excuses in the world to try and defend tRUMP but he'll jet you down the very next day, don't waste your time...

HavasuGuy

Lemons - What other politicians came out to defend the far right in Charlottesville after that protest? Name them. Never in my years have I heard or saw a US president try and defend Nazis and white supremacists, never.

HavasuGuy

But the real proof that tRUMP is a Nazi loving racist;

"In his Independence Day address on Saturday, President Donald Trump vowed to defeat what he called the "radical left" as protests against racism and police brutality continue."

NOT ONE SINGLE WORD ABOUT THE RADICAL RIGHT. You know, the white supremacists and Nazis...

Who's the liar Lemons? He's a racist and you can't cover that stink up no matter how hard you try...

HavasuGuy

Crickets from the peanut gallery, nothing but crickets... Those pesky facts get them everytime...

NorthLong

This is Davel2 signing off! Do you really mean it this time?

Davel2

VA172... Yes, as I am sure the free on-line subscription to the News-Herald will end soon and I refuse to pay for a paper that is so ridiculously slanted to the "Right." I also need to get some things done besides typing on my keyboard all day. I will miss you too, but I may be looking for a bigger soap-box than what is provided here and will be counting on your vote. [beam]

deaton

Before you sign off AGAIN, here’s another link you might check out? Just copy & paste into browser search line, you know how to do that!

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1FfrnOXGHg

Enjoy! [thumbup][tongue] Deaton

“Your”welcome

I think you’re finding out that you’re opinion isn’t worth a grain of salt!

IcePick

The truth can set all colors free, if color is what really matters. Maybe we can get back to Russia robe

https://youtu.be/XPkkjvANE10

Cooldan

I want to know how "BLACK LIVES MATTERS" is allowed to be painted on public streets by city officials. BLM is a political organization that anyone has a right to get behind. donate to, make signs, protest, etc. but using tax payer funds on a street paid for by taxpayers? What if a republican mayor use city funds to print "NRA" or PROLIFE" on a city street? Just saying.

deaton

Great point “Cooldan”, I think the City needs to paint “KEEP AMERICA GREAT” in 18’ high block letter on McCulloch Blvd between Smoketree Ave. and Scott/Media Center Dr. City Council, Mayor Cal are you listening? [thumbup][whistling] Deaton

“Your”welcome

“Ed” statistics on this matter provide to much truth! It simply does not fit the lefts agenda! They will do what they best, put their hand out, then point a little finger at someone else to blame! Happy 4th everyone, stay safe.

Davel2

"Your" welocme... The statistics you are championing have more to do with your agenda

then the issue that got us here, that being Police Misconduct

HavasuGuy

Davel2 - [thumbup][thumbup][thumbup]

“Your”welcome

Just proof of criminal activity! Democratic Republicans, independent who cares if a criminal wants in you’re door!!

“Your”welcome

Davel2, what got us to this free country?

Davel2

"Your" welcome I read the several comments you had for me. I really am done here because the level of ignorance is ridiculous. But if you really want to know what got us to this free country and what got me here, men like my Dad. The man who raised me. The man who grew up in a tough neighborhood and had to live with the racism toward immigrants and their families. The WWII veteran who's parents were immigrants and so loved this country he could not wait to enlist. 2 Purple Hearts, A Bronze Star, A Silver Star, Refused the Medal of Honor unless all the men in his platoon received it. 10 Battle Stars - 4 for amphibious landings, A French braid and even helped liberate a Nazi Concentration Camp... All documented and one hell of a solider. That's what got me here here and he taught me compassion, empathy, and the value of another man's life and freedom. A man without a racist bone in his body and a son who could never be more proud. He did all that so that people like you could run your mouth! You think my opinion isn't worth a grain of salt? My little friend I don't even know your life story, but I can tell you from your comments that you certainly have learned very little in your lifetime. You have not been around much diversity, and have an opinion that even Tucker Carlson would not appreciate. Perhaps your President would appreciate you as he speaks the language of ignorance too. I listened to the Boy King's speech from Rushmore and for a sitting President to say the things he did about others in America that don't support or agree with him is the most disgraceful thing I have heard in my lifetime from any President. To talk about eliminating the" Radical Left" in the same type of speak that Hitler used to turn his followers against the Jews was the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. And who is the Radical Left? People like me who want to see him out of office. People who don't want their children killed when detained by cops for minor issues or for looking suspicious because their walking or jogging through a white neighborhood. People who care more about life lost to a pandemic than his great "Wall Street" economy. To Trump the Radical Left is anybody that doesn't agree and worship him like a King. The truth my friend is that you and several others on here are coming at what it means to be an American from the wrong direction. We will survive the first 4 years of this tyranny, a little broken, but we can limp over the finish line. 4 more years? and we will be at the point of no return. But you and several others on here can vote for this fool, and worship him like he was a God, but never tell me you love America, because anyone that would want this foul stench in the White House has no love for this country at all. Now I'm done!!! Don't bother responding. I won't answer. Just man-up and know when you have received a much deserved spanking!

NorthLong

The WWII veteran who's parents were immigrants and so loved this country he could not wait to enlist. 2 Purple Hearts, A Bronze Star, A Silver Star, Refused the Medal of Honor unless all the men in his platoon received it. 10 Battle Stars - 4 for amphibious landings, A French braid and even helped liberate a Nazi Concentration Camp... All documented and one hell of a solider.

I would like to see the documented proof.

HavasuGuy

Davel2, Thanks for reminding me why I love, honor and respect our country so much. My Veteran father raised us with those very same principles, service to country, honor, respect and compassion for our fellow man.

The false idol in the White House is an abomination to everything America stands for and what Jesus taught us.

Stay healthy, strong and free!

deaton

Yeah right Twit! Let’s see the MOH citation along with that of the Silver Star, that’s all “documented”? Oh, don’t have the documentation, handy? Oh, you tossed those decorations over the White House fence along with John Kerry? That’s what all you “frauds” say when practicing “Stolen Valor”! Seems a little disrespectful of your Father? Which Nazi concentration camp did your Dad liberate? What unit was he in? All verifiable facts? Oh, I see, he didn’t like to talk about, huh? I (suspect) you’re just another sleazy lier practicing “SV” like others I know here, you know who! [thumbdown][censored] Deaton

Davel2

Deaton... You are the most disrespectful trash talking person on here, but to answer

your question... He was in the 3rd Division. Famous for Anzio and other well know battles. He entered the war at the beginning as part of the green troops whose first encounter with the enemy was in North Africa. In WWII when soldiers went in, they were there for the duration so it's easy to understand why many had distinguished military records, unlike President Bone-Spurs. It's a shame that you would think someone would lie about this, but than it is in character for you isn't it? Pathetic and disgusting!

deaton

Yes, Twit, it is in my character to expose lies, frauds and phonies like you. I hope you continue to be “sickened to your core” about my support for our President. He’s worth supporting! Guess Wikipedia saved your butt on the 3rd Infantry Div. Did you read about Audie Murphy? He was in the third! [thumbdown][huh] Deaton

simon1dog

Ed, thank you. Happy 4th of July.

deaton

Ed’s letter here will probably draw the first hostile fire from rovR**BigBob who should be properly incensed about the President’s, Mt. Rushmore 4th of July address to the Nation. Come’on rovRBB** give it your best shot, with denigrating all those ignorant, deplorable, red necks, sporting NRA jackets, cowboy and MAGA hats and waving Trump banners. Jump in here Davel2, how about all those xenophobic, racist, secure borders, country folks from “flyover” South Dakota cheering USA, USA waving flags and admiring their President. How about it Dawn I’m sure you can tell everyone what a disgusting display of misguided hero worship reminiscent of Nuremberg in 1938, you guys have to make your Nazi reference sometime! Maybe HavasuGuy [batman] can add something, no never mind HG never has any independent thoughts, but go ahead you can parrot rovRBB** Luv you BB! [thumbup][love] Deaton

Davel2

Sorry Deaton, but it looks like I was the first one here. I've heard you voice concerns about the protest and Covid-19. At least most were wearing mask. I guess that spread won't apply to Trump in South Dakota. Must be all the Evangelicals in attendance will simply pray Covid-19 away. Be sure to wear your MAGA hat and wave your Trump banner as you watch it on Fox. It will help enhance your experience. If you get bored, do some research into the similarities in political strategies of both Trump and Hitler. Start with Hitler and the Jewish population and compare it to Trump and the Brown population. I just wanted to cover all the bases in case my cohorts are enjoying the 4th

and not able to confirm your predictions.

HavasuGuy

Davel2 - Is dunton still on here? I hope you understand that he has already studied the similarities in political strategies of both Trump and Hitler in regards to Hitler and the Jewish population and Trump and the Brown population. That's why he voted for him. He likes to say he's a patriot while he wears his 'made in China' tRUMP hat and waves his 'made in China' tRUMP flag.

Most tRUMP supporters don't even like what tRUMP is, they just hate the same people he hates.

deaton

Davel2, bring out the bones of those long dead Nazis! We got to compare the President to them AGAIN! Not that it needs to, be but my band new “Trump 2020 flag”, a bright red one, has a sewn in tab, “Made in the USA“, but your right that Chinese made flag I got in December was cheap and wouldn’t have lasted until the election, but the message was the same! How’s your “Biden 2020” flag holding up? It’s been windy lately? Hope it’s doing better then your candidate, that guy is a “piece of work” gone bad! You know there’s a update for “T-blocker” [batman] HG. [thumbup][tongue] Deaton

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