Who could have predicted that electing an obnoxiously self-promoting president who refuses to separate himself from his family business and demands loyalty from his staff would cause unacceptable entanglements between public interest and private profit? Just about everyone.

Which is why it comes as no surprise that, in the wake of reports that there’s been a marked increase in the number of U.S. military flights stopping to refuel at an airport near the Trump Organization’s troubled Turnberry resort in Scotland, the Air Force has ordered a review.

And why it comes as no surprise that Vice President Mike Pence stayed at an out-of-the-way Trump property on a recent trip to Ireland.

And why it comes as no surprise that Attorney General Bill Barr — you know, the nation’s chief law enforcement official — booked a Trump hotel for a $30,000 holiday party. Good government groups are trying to get the courts to focus on whether all this self-dealing violates seemingly unenforceable clauses in the Constitution barring emoluments, or side payments, foreign and domestic. Ordinary Americans should ask themselves a less technical question: Isn’t it all just disgustingly unseemly?

— New York Daily News

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HwyRovr

Bad news for stupid DOTs who keeping defending the low-life.

9-13-2019 A federal appeals court in New York has ruled a lawsuit accusing the low life, draft dodging scum currently squatting in our White of violating the Emoluments Clause can proceed.

A panel of judges with the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 in favor of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which has alleged the president violated the constitutional clause by refusing to put his business assets in a blind trust while in office and profiting off the presidency.

"Plaintiffs have plausibly pleaded that the President’s ownership of hospitality businesses that compete with them will induce government patrons of the hospitality industry to favor Trump businesses over those of the Plaintiffs so as to secure favorable governmental action from the President and Executive branch," Judge Pierre Leval wrote in the decision.

"If President Trump would like to avoid the case going further and curtail the serious harms caused by his unconstitutional conduct, now would be a good time to divest from his businesses and end his violations of the Emoluments Clauses of the Constitution," Executive Director Noah Bookbinder of CREW said in a statement.

The ruling revives yet another lawsuit for Trump to defend against. He is also warding off legal challenges involving his tax returns, and his administration is facing numerous legal challenges of its policies on immigration, health care and other topics.

Watchdogs have raised concerns about the president's decision not to put his company in a blind trust, noting that lobbyists, foreign officials and political insiders may frequent his businesses to earn favor with the administration.

HwyRovr

Darn it, forgot the word "house", I apologize for any confusion.

deaton

“Because the only way the ignorant can ever learn is by being corrected. Do not consider it as a criticism, but a learning experience. BTW, the end of a question should have a “?”. Rovr 09/05/2019” [thumbup][beam] CD

HwyRovr

Thank you for quoting me because, as I said, proper spelling and grammar are important for effective communication. However, I am concerned about your obsession with me that borders on the maniacal. I once found it humorous, but now it has become disturbing because you don’t seem to have anything to actually say and quoting me after I have pointed out an error and apologized for it would appear to be more of homage to me that is disturbing. Honestly, I do not need your approval.

deaton

Rovr, I kind of like occupying that “disturbed” space in your head. “Since all you ever do is whine about me and never actually post anything of substance a better thought would be for you to just stop reading the comments. In other word - go away!” Rovr, 09/06/2019 Have a nice DAY, ROVR [thumbup][beam] Commander DOT

HwyRovr

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HwyRovr

What has not been discussed is that the daily per diem of the flight crews won't over the cost of food, let along lodging, at the draft-dodgers resort.

HwyRovr

Oops, should be "alone", sorry for any confusion.

deaton

“There is nothing funny about misspelling a word. It is a grievous mistake and one I take very seriously. Finding humor in such a situation demonstrates why DOT's are always incensed when their ignorance is pointed out because they do not value accuracy in communication”. . “Rovr 09/03/2019” [thumbup][beam] CD

HwyRovr

Thank you for quoting me because, as I said, proper spelling and grammar are important for effective communication. However, I am concerned about your obsession with me that borders on the maniacal. I once found it humorous, but now it has become disturbing because you don’t seem to have anything to actually say and quoting me after I have pointed out an error and apologized for it would appear to be more of homage to me and that is disturbing. Honestly, I do not need your approval. "HwyRovr"

Mr Lemons

It looks like it has been discussed.



From Politico..."the Air Force said Trump Turnberry was the cheapest option available at the time and below the per diem allowance." Per diem rates for outside the United States is up to $735.00.

HwyRovr

And now for the facts - “According to a report by Politico, an Air National Guard crew running supplies from the US to Kuwait was rerouted to stay at Trump’s Turnberry golf club and resort in Scotland. President Donald Trump’s golf courses in Ireland and Scotland have been losing money, and it appears Trump has been using government funds to prop up these properties by forcing military members and government officials to stay at his properties. This is highly unusual for the members of the military, who typically stay and refuel at military bases.

“‘The crew were so confused by what was happening when they were rerouted to Scotland to refuel at this tiny airport outside of Trump Turnberry because they had never done that before in the fifty-plus trips they had taken to do these routine supply trips,’ Natasha Betrand, who broke the story along with Bryan Bender, said on The Rachel Maddow Show. ‘They didn’t have enough money; their per diem allowance didn’t even allow them to buy food and drinks there. They felt totally out of place.’

“And the military appears to be complicit, refusing to cooperate with an investigation by the House Oversight Committee into the matter. ‘The Defense Department has not produced a single document in this investigation,” a senior Democratic aide on the oversight panel told Politico. ‘The committee will be forced to consider alternative steps if the Pentagon does not begin complying voluntarily in the coming days.’”

Mr Lemons

None of this seems plausible. A few nights spent by the military (the Air Force says 6% of the crews between 2015 and 2019, including during the Obama administration) at the resorts is going to "prop up" resorts losing money? The average rate for the Turnberry resort is $190. On a Friday night, $282. I see very few facts in the above. I see several times that something "appears" to be true. And Rachel Maddow of "Russia, Russia, Russia" fame isn't a great source of information. Probably more House Oversight Committee grasping at straws.

HwyRovr

Once again false information provided in an attempt to mislead – following are the per diem rates for Ireland – notice none of them come close to $735l

From the Defense Travel Management Office

CORK - lodging $162; meals $90; maximum per diem $275

DUBLIN - lodging $256; meals $80; maximum per diem $356

GALWAY - lodging $174; meals $90; maximum per diem $286

OTHER* locations - lodging $156; meals $79 maximum per diem $254 12/01/2018

*Use the OTHER rate if neither the CITY, PLACE, nor MILITARY INSTALLATION is listed.

HwyRovr

Here are the per diem rates for Scotland, note none of these approach $735.



Edinburgh – Lodging $179; meals $68; maximum pe diem $276

Glasgow - Lodging $160; meals $68: maximum per diem $245

Other locations – Lodging $207, meals $98; maximum per diem $330

Mr Lemons

Is it misleading to say "up to $735?" All of your rates fall within the range I gave.


deaton

Oops, should be “cover” “There is nothing funny about misspelling a word. It is a grievous mistake and one I take very seriously. Finding humor in such a situation demonstrates why DOT's are always incensed when their ignorance is pointed out because they do not value accuracy in communication”. . “Rovr 09/03/2019” CD [thumbup][beam]

HwyRovr

"HwyRovr" - Thank you for quoting me because, as I said, proper spelling and grammar are important for effective communication. However, I am concerned about your obsession with me that borders on the maniacal. I once found it humorous, but now it has become disturbing because you don’t seem to have anything to actually say and quoting me would appear to be more of homage to me and that is disturbing. Honestly, I do not need your approval.

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